Was Back to AtD Music of the Spheres--Not

Paul Mackin mackin.paul at verizon.net
Sun Jul 29 08:40:39 CDT 2012


On 7/29/2012 3:16 AM, Phillip Greenlief wrote:
> makes sense to me ... the hopi's say that the origin of consciousness 
> began with the apprehension of sound.

Proust's involuntary memory starts with smell but I think sound is high 
up there in importance.

P
>
> sent from phillip's iPhone
>
> On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:30 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:markekohut at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>> In a footnote to my posted suggestion that perhaps one level going on
>> here in the Lydian-Phrygian discussion was that the the disappearance
>> as felt belief in the devil (in the music) meant that via Orpheus and 
>> Pythagoreanism
>> the devil came back as The Return of the Repressed--as a new 'mythic' 
>> belief
>> so to speak,a  modern Freudian-caused one, I have stumbled across
>> this from Yeats's "A Vision"....(Yeats did give us 'As above, so 
>> below" from this book
>> too, I believe):
>> "It is as though myth and fact, united until the exhaustion of the 
>> Renaissance, have now fallen
>> so far apart that man understands for the first time the rigidity of 
>> fact, and calls up, by that
>> very recognition, myth"...---W.B.
>> And from Safranski's bio of Nietzsche: "Music precedes the Tower of 
>> Babel...only universal
>> form of communication....."The related notion that music is closer to 
>> our essence than any other
>> product of our consciousness goes back to the beginnings of history. 
>> This notion underlies both
>> Orphic and Pythagorean doctrines."....and more including Kepler and 
>> the Music of the Spheres,
>> "music as the language of the cosmos and as figured meaning."

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