Fw: An Interview with Terry Eagleton

[Madeleine Maudlin]

"It's concentrated evil!"  Nietzsche would have loved that phrase.  Applied
to the crucifix.

Is anybody like me, beginning to believe the entire New Testament is a
fraud, a fake, a hoax.  It's so obviously ridiculous, it must be a put-on.
 At least the Old Testament talked about deities and sky people and visits
to "Heaven", like the Sumerians, Babylonians, Akkadians did.  I don't think
Nietzsche knew anything about the Sumerians--

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Matthew Cissell <macissell at yahoo.es> wrote:

>
>   ----- Forwarded Message -----
> *From:* Matthew Cissell <macissell at yahoo.es>
> *To:* Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2012 4:08 PM
> *Subject:* Re: An Interview with Terry Eagleton
>
>  I thought that that Bled fellow would pop up to defend FN and that Kai
> would respond to the Marx sub-thread. Aren't surprises nice.
> Mr. Fonash cites Zizek and  Steve Smith as scholars who have put FN on the
> right side of the political spectrum. He could add Richard Wolin to the
> list. (I mentioned Wolin's "The Seduction of Unreason" in a loose bash on
> Jung.) However, I don't think it would help as Wolin's atttempt to paint FN
> as a "proto-fascist" comes off very unconvincingly, especially when
> measured against the more balanced appraisal offered in J.W Burrow's "The
> Crisis of Reason". From Burrow's book: "Nietzsche's influence was so great
> and extensive not only because of the power, intellectual and rhetorical,
> of his writing... but mecause his message of liberation operated at a
> number of different levels: cultural, epistemological, psychological and
> ethical (including sexual)." FN as a "radical right wing theorist"? Maybe
> you're thinking of some of the scholars that Habermas referred to as
> "neo-conservatives" and their use of FN.
> As for the choice of words, "intoxicating", Ich bin mit Kai. That might
> fit with Bataille or Klossowski, which brings me to Kai's comments
> regarding Zizek or "evil French stuff" Genau! Let me add a cinema quote:
> "Don't touch it mom! It's pure evil!"
> As much as I respect Wolin's (and other's) effort to re-evaluate
> 'postmodern' intellectual icons like FN, I'm afraid that efforts to deflate
> the concept of 'postmodernism' may cause them to push the envelope to far.
>
> All the best
> MC Otis
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>
> *To:* Michael Fonash <mff8785 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2012 1:03 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: An Interview with Terry Eagleton
>
>
> It is funny to see that someone so afraid of theoretical "intoxications"
> refers to - of all people - Zizek, whom nobody else but Eagleton once
> called "Lacan's representative on earth" ...
>
> Watch your step, this is evil French stuff! :-)
>
> "TEXT --- the hardest drug of all." (Rainald Goetz)
>
> On 08.06.2012 12:10, Michael Fonash wrote:
> > Kai,
> >
> > "Nietzsche is a radical right-wing theorist...  they(Marx and
> > Nietzsche) are brilliant re-writers of
> > Hegel and not much else."
> >
> > Original?  I apologize if I made it sound as if this was my personal
> > reading.  Thinkers well-read on both sides of the Western
> > Tradition(Left and Right, Zizek and Steve Smith for example) are more
> > than familiar with this and have been seeing it for more than 15-20
> > years.  It is "known" by those who are able to weather the
> > intoxicating storm of undergrad Marx and Nietsche.  Dangerously, some
> > never weather the intoxicating -ism of Marx and the the revel of
> > Nietzsche's intoxicating poetry.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
> > <lorentzen at hotmail.de>  wrote:
> >> Nietzsche "not much else" but a "re-writer()" of Hegel?!
> >>
> >> OK ... I give you one for originality.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 07.06.2012 18:00, Michael Fonash wrote:
> >>> I am still dumbfounded as to how the many vociferous, outspoken
> >>> Profs/Phd's(certainly not all) can not see how Marx is a radical
> >>> left-wing theorist as Nietzsche is a radical right-wing theorist:
> >>> neither being anywhere near "truth" or an effective, sustainable
> >>> theory of Modern gov't.  Accurately, they are brilliant re-writers of
> >>> Hegel and not much else.  The title "Marx is Right" is just...
> >>> foolish and silly.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Dave Monroe<against.the.dave at gmail.com
> >
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 7:06 PM, alice wellintown
> >>>> <alicewellintown at gmail.com>    wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> http://www.oxonianreview.org/wp/an-interview-with-terry-eagleton/
> >>>> http://yalepress.yale.edu/book.asp?isbn=9780300169430
> >>>
> >
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