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Lemuel Underwing
luunderwing at gmail.com
Sat Jun 9 13:39:32 CDT 2012
Yeah, I grew up in a community where HaShem was used to speak of God in an
'everyday' sort-of-way.
I also recall the folk-tale that Melchizedek was actually Shem.
Let us also remember Shem's son, ever the compatriot of Uncle P., Lud.
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Jude Bloom <jude at bloomradio.com> wrote:
> Orthodox Jews today still day 'Hashem.' God's original name – he actually
> has three – in the Hebrew Bible is The Sacred Tetragrammaton, YHVH. (The
> other two names he tells uh Moses I think is I AM THAT I AM, and El
> Shaddai, or Mountain God.) It's thought that this was pronounced YAHWEH,
> although nobody knows. Old-time Hebrew doesn't have vowel markings.
>
> You were only to say God's name in the Holy of Holies, that little secret
> compartment in the Temple. So when referring to God, Ha Shem is Hebrew for
> The Name. You also here Adonai a lot (most all Jewish prayers start out
> 'Baruch atah Adonai...'), Adonai means roughly 'Lord' and is like a general
> term for, I dunno, Lord. It's not God's name so it's OK.
>
> So some Jews'll say, 'Thank Hashem it's Shabbat' or something. Lemme just
> say, for myself, I'm with one of the two Philip Roths in Operation Shylock
> and think diasporism, and giving up all that goofy temple shit, was the
> best thing what happened to Jewish folk.
>
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> Rabbi J
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> On Jun 8, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Iris Sirius <irissiriustce at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes how does that go again? Something like, there's a Hebrew word, shem,
> which, for whatever reason, well the reason is obvious, the word made very
> strange indeed beginning parts of the Old Testament, so it's always been
> translated as *name*. But as a great deal of Semetic terms are taken
> ultimately from Sumerian, if you look at the Sumerian root, shem means
> something like "sky vehicle", or such things. "Rocket." Rocketmen. So
> what happened was reading shem as name you read a lot of the ancient texts,
> like Gilgamesh, the Sumerians wanting *names* for themselves. When
> really they wanted to be rocketmen, like the humans who came down in them
> and gave them advanced civilization. One of the strangest things being
> regarding the tower of Babel--it was intended to be a rocketship. "Let us
> make a rocket", rather than "Let us make a name." The Neflim who lived
> with Adam's people before the flood and married the daughters were humans
> from the sky. Nefilim into "giants" is another massacre. Nefilim means
> "cast down".
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