NP - What's So Bad About Theocracy, Anyway?

[Ian Livingston]

I agree with you almost completely, Joseph, except for this one point:
Jesus is never anti-authoritarian. Instead, he separates church from state.
Render unto Caesar and all that. The state is the state, it is not
compatible with religion. That is one of the chief points of
differentiation between Christianity and Islam. Mohammed's state is
theocratic. "St" Paul comes across as quite theocratic, also. He engineered
the true schism in Christianity. All other sectarian divisions are minor
after Paul's diversion from Jesus' teachings, the almost inevitable
subsequent union of Caesar and Christ, and the advent of militant
christianity in Rome. Now, I'm no christian, but I think this Voris guy is
as ridiculous as Paul and Constantine, so he scares me a little.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

>  Christian is a loaded word whose ownership should not be conceded to
> theocratic killers. What we live in is a classic agonistic state religion
> of imperial dominance with roots in an upperclass ant-colonial revolution,
> now shading into a weird blend of plutocracy and militarism which uses
> personal greed and Old Testament homophobia and glorifications of ethnic
> cleansing as  pressure valves and scape goats when popular revolution
> looms.  Even the edited Jesus of the fucked over New Testament  was
>  peaceful and anti-authoritarian.  It would be impossible to construct the
> Cristian Right from a popular consensus about what Jesus taught in the New
> Testament. Where would they fit the Sermon on the Mount or the constant
> sharing of food?
> Unfortunately fascism has become a loaded word, but the combination of
> militarism, corporate power and colonial power structures along with the
> changing face of the big enemy( Communism, Islam, Terror, Brownness,
> Blackness, Yellowness, Redness,  ), the claim to absolute imperial power of
> life and death all point to that word as being as accurate a description of
> the US as any I can think of.
> On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Madeleine Maudlin wrote:
>
> > Don't we already live in a Christian theocracy?
> >
> > "Ugh!"
> > "Boo!"
> > "Yawn!"
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/not_parody_alert_whats_so_bad_about_theocracy_anyway
> >
> > You may recall Michael Voris from this video, “What’s So Bad About
> > Theocracy, Anyway?” that explains why the United States needs a
> > Christian dictator.
> >
> > It’s simple: pro-gay, pro-abortion “parasitic” liberals get to vote.
> >
> > Voris is the controversial star of the formerly named “Real Catholic
> > TV” web series. Yesterday, the conservative crusader announced that
> > his show will henceforth be known as “Church Militant TV” and that he
> > will be relaunching his brand (The Archdiocese of Detroit have
> > sensibly asserted that Voris was not authorized to speak for the real
> > Catholic Church and so now he’s using this more appropriate name).
> >
> > You probably think this is an Onion parody, don’t you?
> >
> > It’s not.
> >
>
>


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"Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all creeds
the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust in
reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness
groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates than the simplest
urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
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