List of agnostics

Mark Kohut markekohut at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 27 17:20:54 CDT 2012


Now we're list-agnostic?

 

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 From: "kelber at mindspring.com" <kelber at mindspring.com>
To: pynchon-l at waste.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: List of agnostics
  

Wasn't referring to the people on THIS list, but to the people on the list of agnostics that Dave Monroe sent a link to.

LK

-----Original Message----- 
>From: Alex Colter 
>Sent: Jun 27, 2012 5:48 PM 
>To: David Morris 
>Cc: Phillip Greenlief , pynchon-l at waste.org 
>Subject: Re: List of agnostics 
>
>Sure GR's core is deeply Agnostic, but M&D is a different thing altogether. Tho' Cherrycoke is of a somewhat dubious orthodoxy he certainly worships Christ and misses no opportunity to ridicule Deism...?
>Presbyterian myself,  
>Did someone really insist that we were atheists? 
>some people on this list......
>
>
>On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:39 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>I've played with the I Ching (not seriously enough to say I've studied
>>it) one of the oldest of the Chinese classic texts.  At its heart it
>>is a representation of the universe (maybe the source of Taoism), and
>>its structure starts with two elements, yang & yin, symbolically
>>corresponding  to male and female.  So it would agree to a universe of
>>two frequencies, but they wouldn't be fear and love.  The range of
>>opposites would be infinite, thus the spinning duality of the yin/yang
>>mandala.
>>
>>David Morris
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Madeleine Maudlin <madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>>>
>>> Some say that there are but two primary vibrations in the world, of which
>>> all things are varying frequencies: fear and love.  Fear, they say, are the
>>> lower frequencies; love the higher.  The higher frequencies are more
>>> energetic.  I don't think many will disagree, or all will concede the idea,
>>> that higher energy is a manifestation of greater power.
>>>
>>> Nietzsche, the greatest of life-affirming humans, proclaimed that life is a
>>> will to power.
>>>
>>> How does that sound?
>>>
>>> ***********************
>>> i like the first statement, it is indeed something i've thought about
>>> repeatedly. the universe revolving on two basic frequencies is a taoist
>>> principle, methinks. the two sides of the taoist coin depend on one another
>>> ... conflict is the axis upon which the tao spins ...  no conflict: no drama
>>> - no literature, no art, no music, politics, etc. etc. etc. in that way, is
>>> it perhaps inevitable that americans will continue to spin on the axis of
>>> the two-party system?
>>>
>>> and yet, i don't truly see how fear can be a frequency that "just exists" -
>>> because it is usually in reaction to something. it is possible that when
>>> human consciousness apprehends the infinite nature of the universe, fear
>>> will naturally follow ... like, how can you navigate something that is
>>> endless, something whose form is a mystery?
>>>
>>> love seems something that you can possess - for humanity, for example, not
>>> talking about a specific, romantic love for another person - unconditional
>>> love can exist without responding to anything in particular. whereas fear is
>>> something that comes from apprehending something you don't understand ...
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> just responding, not attempting to propose answers to this puzzle.
>>
> 
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