List of agnostics

[David Morris]

See? You just go on and on.....

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Ian Livingston
<igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:
> How about Jamesian arguments about theism vs. non-theism, or Spinozist
> pantheism? Seems to me P. weighs in on all of them at varying times
> (anarchist miracles, a soul in every stone....) I wouldn't dare try to dig
> so far into the works as to believe I could ascertain Pynchon's religious /
> spiritual inclinations, but I would say that he certainly challenges a
> thinking reader to think about the topic.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Moreover it seems that Pynchon does not doubt so much the Existence of
>> God, but rather His Intentions...?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> O' Mopery. This is neither the Place nor Time. I joined this list for
>>> conversation on the Works of Pynchon not some incredibly boring argument
>>> over the existence of God. Obviously I made a wrong turn somewhere, this
>>> couldn't be the Pynchon List...
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:44 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK.  This is deserving of analysis.  More soon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 27, 2012, Lemuel Underwing wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> for example:
>>>>> "The Ascent to Christ is a struggle thro' one heresy after another,
>>>>> River-wise up-country into a proliferation of Sects and Sects branching from
>>>>> Sects, unto Deism, faithless pretending to be holy, and beyond, - ever away
>>>>> from the Sea, from the Harbor, from all that was serene and certain, into an
>>>>> Interior unmapp'd, a Realm of Doubt. The Nights. The Storms and Beasts. The
>>>>> Falls, the Rapids,...the America of the Soul."
>>>>> -The Reverend Wicks Cherrycoke, 'Undelivered Sermons'
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Lemuel Underwing
>>>>> <luunderwing at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't be less interested in what most of your religious (or
>>>>> nonreligious) beliefs are, how about we talk about the subject of faith in
>>>>> the works of Pynchon, hey? That would be an interesting discussion and it
>>>>> would allow us to expound upon our own beliefs (or non-beliefs) in relation
>>>>> to his body of work?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> i continue to keep my spirituality personal, silent, and unexplained.
>>>>>
>>>>> please don't lump me in any of the aforementioned boxes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well unless you folks talk with Tom I don't know where you've gathered
>>>>> that he's either an agnostic of an atheist?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:53 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't referring to the people on THIS list, but to the people on the
>>>>> list of agnostics that Dave Monroe sent a link to.
>>>>>
>>>>> LK
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Alex Colter
>>>>> Sent: Jun 27, 2012 5:48 PM
>>>>> To: David Morris
>>>>> Cc: Phillip Greenlief , pynchon-l at waste.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure GR's core is deeply Agnostic, but M&D is a different thing
>>>>> altogether. Tho' Cherrycoke is of a somewhat dubious orthodoxy he certainly
>>>>> worships Christ and misses no opportunity to ridicule Deism...?
>>>>> Presbyterian myself,
>>>>> Did someone really insist that we were atheists?
>>>>> some people on this list......
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:39 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've played with the I Ching (not seriously enough to say I've studied
>>>>> it) one of the oldest of the Chinese classic texts.  At its heart it
>>>>> is a representation of the universe (maybe the source of Taoism), and
>>>>> its structure starts with two elements, yang & yin, symbolically
>>>>> corresponding  to male and female.  So it would agree to a universe of
>>>>> two frequencies, but they wouldn't be fear and love.  The range of
>>>>> opposites would be infinite, thus the spinning duality of the yin/yang
>>>>> mandala.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > From: Madeleine Maudlin <madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com>
>>>>> > Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Some say
>>>
>>>
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> --
> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all creeds
> the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust in reason
> is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness groping for
> the sun. I know no more about the ultimates than the simplest urchin in the
> streets." -- Will Durant