A musical Clockwork Orange

Jude Bloom jude at bloomradio.com
Fri Jun 29 15:49:30 CDT 2012


Yeah IIRC the great movie Brazil had to have a 'happy' ending tacked on for the US market?

We don't like a certain kind of moral darkness, but on the other hand we did invent movie violence. So.  


J



On Jun 29, 2012, at 3:45 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

did you ever see stephen king's version of the shining? it's so laughably bad. jack torrance shows up at danny's graduation as a lovable ghost like Jesus you see in sappy paintings helping a football player or fireman.

whats interesting is that the us version went with the darker version. we're not noted for that here in the US. strange

rich

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jude Bloom <jude at bloomradio.com> wrote:
Has anyone else read ReJoyce & Burgess on music? He wrote a libretto/play about Mozart that seemed a little overwrought but was interesting. The treatment of Ludwig is pretty one-sided in ACO, but I always chalked that up to the narrator being, well, unreliable.

The movie is better than the book, cause Kubrick chose to follow the US edition, which (wisely I think) cut out Burgess' last, 'redemptive' chapter. Burgess argued that without the redemption, the book wasn't a novel, cause no one changes or learns. But I found his last chapter as heavy-handed as Dostoevsky's in Crime & Punishment. 



On Jun 29, 2012, at 2:32 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

singin in the rain will never be the same again

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:



-------- Original Message --------
Subject:	Re: A musical Clockwork Orange
Date:	Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:53:49 -0400
From:	Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
To:	Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>

On 6/29/2012 2:14 PM, Keith Davis wrote:
> I thought it was already a miisical, feaaturing old Ludwig Van?
> 

and all you feel like is going out and invading Poland

P
> On Jun 29, 2012 1:37 PM, "Phillip Greenlief" <pgsaxo at pacbell.net> wrote:
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> From: Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
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> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18628002
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> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18638173
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> i don't know, man - i hate musicals. i know burgess was a frustrated composer - he said as much in his tract Re:Joyce, but i just don't feel the need to see A.C.O. turned into something "other" ... the novel is pretty good, right? and the film is really good. i just can't help but think this is ultimately aimed at softening the work at some level. from the sounds of the songs on the "trailer" here, ew, it just sounds awful, sounds trite, and the work is anything but. 







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