List of agnostics

[Mark Kohut]

Right. Stands for itself, a cigar. No matter how much history cigars have; no matter how many there are.
No matter how differently they are made. No matter how many ARE penis METAPHORS......some are not..

From: Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>
To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>; pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org> 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: List of agnostics


Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.


On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

See Sign in wikipedia or in C. S. Pierce (or your favorite semiotician)
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>QUOTE: "There are things that are just things, not any sign at all; "
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>As I was saying with V.'s SLAB and Augustine's BRICK...................
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>Pynchon does contain just about everything if one keeps rereading him while on the plist. 
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>I dispute your slide from " a word is a sign that can be perceived as metaphor."  if an alphabetized on paper/bark/etc. word  by being in letters is what you call a sign, OK. Some of those signs are NOT metaphors. 
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>From: Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
>To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>; David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> 
>Cc: Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>; Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>; Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>; "pynchon-l at waste.org" <pynchon-l at waste.org> 
>Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 5:49 PM 
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>Subject: Re: List of agnostics
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>From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
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>Subject: Re: List of agnostics
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>All words? All?....to rise to the challenge grant, I ask about SLAB in V...
>which may be an allusion, as has been discussed here metaphorically, I'm sure, to 
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>i hate arguing semantics almost as much as i hate musicals ... but at some level - yes - words are signs that have meaning for something else (a thing that isn't a word). signs communicate, they are symbols that reveal meanings. so, at that micro-level, yes, a word is a sign that can be perceived as metaphor, for it is something pointing to something else. 
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>slippery, yes.
>no contest necessary.
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