Piss Christ, Madonna with Dung (WAS:This is Why We Fight...)

[Michael Bailey]

 Bled Welder wrote:
> Ah. I'll keep in mind the GR people and their electric toads.
>
> You prefer persuasion from fear of the shock!-- (and in Cheney's case, no
> doubt, awe)...
>

I've got a healthy aversion to electric shock, yes...


but satisfaction-wise, successful moral suasion seems to me far more
recommendable

and the strategy in Genesis for Cain stands out as one of the
reasonably good ideas in the Old Testament, until such time as
acceptance of moral suasion allows redemption --

9Then the Lord said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?"
"I know not," he replied. "Am I my brother's keeper?"
10Then He said, "What have you done? Your brother's blood cries out to
Me from the ground! 11So now you are cursed [with alienation][36] from
the ground that opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood you
have shed. 12If you work the land, it will never again give you its
yield. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth."
13But Cain answered the Lord, "My punishment[37] is too great to bear!
14Since You are banishing me today from the soil, and I must hide
myself from Your presence and become a restless wanderer on the earth,
whoever finds me will kill me."
15Then the Lord replied to him, "Therefore,[38] whosoever slayeth Cain
vengeance will suffer vengeance seven times over. "[39] And the Lord
set a Mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. 16Then
Cain went out from the Lord's presence and lived in the land of Nod,
east of Eden.