Gravity's Rainbow in depth on Studio 360

[Joseph Tracy]

 I missed this post  somehow and it's very helpful in understanding the way you are viewing the topic and the words used. I am totally comfortable  with this take, and am personally  fundamentally skeptical of the limits of 'representations' of the real.  This is certainly a primary concern of Pynchon.  

What I question, and maybe reading my own statements in this light will clarify where I'm coming from,  what I question is whether all perception of patterns in nature and human affairs is delusional  as in the pejorative use of the word 'paranoia'.  I  certainly see the problems associated with making  any kind of absolutist  or moral/religious/political dogma from those perceptions or the implied  generalities derived from those perceived patterns. But the ability to see patterns and respond intelligently and skillfully and ultimately with some kind of wisdom seems like the a fundamental aspect of what in the human drama Pynchon satirically but also with real tenderness seems to portray with admiration. He seems to show this grace and learning as common on a local or personal scale but mostly problematic on a larger scale as what was once wisdom becomes a system of dominance and control.  

While Pynchon uses porn film and shit imagery  and sadistic science as major lenses through which his world is considered , he also uses lovers, free spirits, tribal hunter gatherers turned rocket scientists, Kabalah, Rilke and Christianity. He reverses roles ( poetry becomes sadism, porn becomes suffering and hope) but is also very respectful in this process. The sexuality of Roger and Jessica, the Christmas sermon, Slothrop in the Zone, the rainbow, all show tenderness and respect for the idea of the sacred, the sense that something  of  deep worth might be redeemed even from this horrible war.  

I apologize for addressing statements outside of their full context.  Part of the problem is with some errors with downloads from the p-list.  
On Mar 9, 2012, at 9:22 AM, David Morris wrote:

> Read the whole post.
> 
> http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0006&msg=46451&keywords=Dali%20Morris