Gravity's Rainbow in depth on Studio 360
Bled Welder
bledwelder at hotmail.com
Sat Mar 10 10:54:50 CST 2012
Perhaps a new term or terms, or reterming is in order.
According to my distinction below, you have:
1. paranoia2. runaway paranoia
Two is close to clinical paranoia. Maybe rather a new term for number one paranoia. Besides positive, threatening. Something not so obvious. Intuitive? No, god no, wrong, wrong.
It could be rational paranoia; then you's have runaway rational paranoia. Because the aboslutely fascinating thing about runaway paranoia is that it is often the product of high intelligence, and Nothing can convince a runaway paranoid (paranoiac is bad term) away from their delusional conclusions. In fact, any contrary opinion only serves to further prove their views.
Grandiose paranoids are the most fascinating, and grandiose runaway paranoids the most fascinating of all. My contribution to the history of literary criticism happens to be that Don Quixote is a grandiose runaway paranoid. They are very dangerous people, because nothing they do in light of their delusions can ever be wrong, because their delusions are absolute fact and they act according to the dictates of their delusions. In Quixote's case, brutalizing innocent people in the name of the rules of knight errancy.
In a more classic case, highly intelligent people who are arch-rationalists believe any contradiction of their statements and beliefs and actions are necessarily irrational, by definition, and are thus evil, and irrational people--which becomes everybody--are out to destroy him...
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:17:08 -0600
Subject: Re: Gravity's Rainbow in depth on Studio 360
From: bledWelder at hotmail.com
To: kbob42 at gmail.com; fqmorris at gmail.com
CC: brook7 at sover.net; pynchon-l at waste.org
I didnt want to be the person to point this out because moderacy is not much a part of me, to date anyway, but paranoia in moderation is a very positive and valuable thing.
Unless it is deFined by its excesses, ie delusions. But I put it to you, Who or What is the Force that so defines it, if not those who may be revealed, unfolded by the positive paranoia...?
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Davis
Sent: 10 Mar 2012 15:19:37 GMT
To: David Morris
Cc: Joseph Tracy,P-list
Subject: Re: Gravity's Rainbow in depth on Studio 360
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:22 AM, David Morris
<fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
Read the whole post.
http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0006&msg=46451&keywords=Dali%20Morris
This is sort of where it started? Good post. Agreed P's writing's seem primarily related to our search for meaning and a sense of our place in relation to the Cosmos. Not sure if I'd call that "religious", but I understood what you meant by it. I think that's
the main attraction, aside from the beauty of the writing itself.
If paranoia or pornography are seen as possible windows through which to get a glimpse of or to find the beginning of a path towards a sense of meaning, then that might be seen as positive. To include them both in the same category doesn't seem quite right,
though. Paranoia seems by definition to be a negative. Pornography, as something that stimulates sexual desire, relies on a personal context to define it as positive or negative.
The issue again is definition, and how definitions shift according to social conventions.
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