Pynchons Problem

Bekah bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net
Mon Mar 12 20:14:18 CDT 2012


Okay - so I'll give points for imagination and the judicious use of a stoned Philip Marlowe character.   
Bek

On Mar 12, 2012, at 2:16 PM, alice wellintown wrote:

>> Well I doubt IV was written to appease anyone except TPR's own memories of "the beach in the days"  but I agree on all else.
> 
> Do yu really think Pynchon wrote IV from memories on the beach? Didn't
> know Pynchon was so friendly with female fuzz.
> 
>> One point,   IV was written after AtD - so AtD couldn't really have been written to take revenge for his surrender in IV.
> 
> Itz california re-tread material. When it was slapped in the slick
> jacket and sent to the hard boiled factory for a haircut is not
> exactly when it got its gum sandles and weed. I bet it was written
> around VL, in rough form, and dressed up later.
> 
> 
> 
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>> Don't the women in IV seem mostly like beach bunnies and band groupies - aside from Wolfman's wife?
> 
> The female fuzz? These gals ain't even sticken wit choo till the
> mullah runs out. They go they own pension plans.
> 
> 
>> 
>> AtD, otoh,  does a fine job with women - all sorts - loved them - some actually stand alone rather than being present only for some male's purposes.   M&D  didn't do too badly by women either - if I remember correctly -  and what about TCoL49?  That was his 2nd novel.  SL was a bit lame with the women though -
>> 
> 
> Well, a buddy tale about two science guys who go out on adventure is
> hardly a book that does anything much at all with females. The line is
> straight and strong, hard to keep up. The only female thang out there
> is the mother earth and she gettin raped.
> 
> Oedipa is a parodic figure, a young republican housewife who only gets
> to snoop around cause she slept with the real estate man. The beatles
> boys, the playwright, the science dudes in the yo-yo dine, they all
> have fun with her female weaknesses.
> 
> VL? Don't get me started. That Prairie is into some violence
> enthusiast, and she can't help it, just like her moms.




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