In Which Jung prewrites AtD's epigraph

[Paul Mackin]

On 3/14/2012 1:20 PM, Jude Bloom wrote:
>> On Mar 14, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Ian Livingston wrote:
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>> But the literary Everybody seems to love Freud. Maybe that's because
>> he was so wrong about people, maybe it's because he smoked big cigars
>> and suffered sexual obsessions....
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>> Btw, while Freud's ideas are mostly absent from current trends in
>> psychology, a number of the tools Jung developed remain in play,
>> evolving as more information comes to light.
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> Seriously?
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> Freud today:
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> Conception of the mind and subconscious
> Psychoanalysis in film, literature, music, TV, photography
> Talking Therapy
> The Couch
> The Life and Death instincts
> Defense mechanisms
> Freudian slips (parapraxis)
> Dreams as "royal road to the unconscious"
> Civilization and its discontents in the 20th Century (various Holocausts)
> Atheism movement (The Future Of An Illusion)
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> Bloom (no relation) said that Freud was the most important essayist since Montaigne. He survives as an essayist and philosopher, although not a scientist. In F's defense, they didn't have much brain science back then. Interesting to note that as psychology becomes more and more 'physically' based — neurochemicals, brain structures, etc. — it comes back closer to Freud, who argued for a biological basis of everything mental.
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> Uh, also... To say something like, F was wrong about sex because he suffered from obsession, well, that's a Freudian argument right there. See? Freud did or didn't do something he wasn't consciously aware of because of unconscious motivations. That's a Freudian idea.
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> Yes I know Freud didn't invent much of this stuff — a lot of it is in Plato — but our very language and idea of the mental is Freudian now.  You run across archetypes and stuff every once in a while, but I don't see 1/10 as much Jung in culture — or in psychology — as Freud.



It does seem like the big names are Marx, Nietzsche and Freud, not Marx, 
Nietzsche and Jung.

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