(np) Trayvon Williams tragedy

[David Morris]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-trayvon-martin-family-20120315,0,2583523.story?page=1&track=rss

Three witnesses contacted by The Miami Herald say they saw or heard
the moments before and after the Miami Gardens teenager’s killing. All
three said they heard the last howl for help from a despondent boy,
and believe the sequence of sounds shatters the notion that Trayvon
was killed in self defense.

“I heard someone crying – not boo-hoo crying, but scared or terrified
or hurt maybe,” said Mary Cutcher, 31. “To me, it was a child.”

“This was not self defense,” Cutcher said. “We heard no fighting, no
wrestling, no punching. We heard a boy crying. As soon as the shot
went off, it stopped, which tells me it was the child crying. If it
had been Zimmerman crying, it wouldn’t have stopped. If you’re
hurting, you’re hurting.”

“I know what I heard. I heard a cry and a shot,” the second witness
said. “If there was a fight, it did not happen here where the boy was
shot. I would have heard it, as this all happened right outside my
open window.”


On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:49 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> The indeterminancy on the shooter's part:  "What's this black kid
> doing in this neighborhood?"
>
> The indeterminancy on the dead kid's part: "Why is this scary guy chasing me?"
>
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>
> http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/03/nra-dreams-come-true.html
>
> So it turns out that Treyvan Martin was talking to a friend while
> being followed by the neighborhood watch guy:
>
> The pair's phone logs, obtained by ABC News, show they spoke just five
> minutes before police responded to reports of a shooting at the gated
> community in Sanford, Fla.
>
> Recounting her conversation with Martin, the teen girl said, "He said
> this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost
> the man."
>
> "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told
> him to run but he said he was not going to run," she said.
>
> After a few minutes, the girl said, Martin thought he was safe. But
> eventually the man appeared again.
>
> "Trayvon said, 'What are you following me for?'" the girl said. "And
> the man said, 'What are you doing here?' Next thing I hear is somebody
> pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the [phone’s\] headset
> just fell."
>
> The line went dead, the girl said.
>
> "I called him again and he didn't answer the phone," she said.
>
> So it would seem that the teen-ager was the one who was afraid. And
> rightly so as it turns out.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:17 AM,  <bandwraith at aol.com> wrote:
>> Well, even trained police have a difficult
>> time with indeterminancy, and this case
>> sounds plenty indeterminate, with res-
>> pect to the roles of those involved.