(np) Trayvon Williams tragedy

[bandwraith at aol.com]

I guess I was vague. I was in no way
defending him, so much as trying to
imply that civilian vigilante types are
more likely to use unnecessary force,
often with disastrous results. I agree,
he should be arrested.

It makes no sense arming civilians
and having them patrol at night,
especially alone. I don't even think
the police take that risk. Seems like
whomever designed the program,
or was in charge, should also be held
liable.


-----Original Message-----
From: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
To: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: (np) Trayvon Williams tragedy


Bullshit.  Zimmerman should be arrested.  He lacks a leg to stand on 
already and it keeps getting worse.



-----Original Message-----
From: bandwraith <bandwraith at aol.com>
To: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:18 am
Subject: Re: (np) Trayvon Williams tragedy


Well, even trained police have a difficult
time with indeterminancy, and this case
sounds plenty indeterminate, with res-
pect to the roles of those involved.

Viggies have a tendency to be more
aggressive in resolving indeterminancy,
often applying force in an arbitrary way,
as a means of resolving issues of
indeterminancy, like, who's in charge?

What ever happened to l' Hospital's rule?

Seems to have gone the way of Rodney King:
"Because we can't, Rodney, that's why."




-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
To: P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 8:34 am
Subject: (np) Trayvon Williams tragedy


about 10 miles from where I live, the neighborhood watch captain shot
this kid, it's becoming a cause celebre...

http://www.floridatoday.com/viewart/20120321/NEWS01/303210016/Lawyer-Before-death-Trayvon-Martin-told-girlfriend-he-being-followed?odyssey=mod%7cnewswell%7ctext%7cnews0305%7cp

nightmarish thing, story developing...

i can almost see it now, details slowly coming out, by most accounts
the shooter was a pretty good guy, but there'd been robberies
recently, the kid apparently ducking into a building not where he
lived to get out of the rain for a minute, then walking towards
home...

exceeding his remit by leaving his secure vantage (cops were on the
way), carrying a licensed 9, the guy thinks he'll stop the crime wave,
accosts the kid, "i'm the neighborhood watch", probably lays hands on
him, kid secure in his innocence biffs him a good one...kapow

they made a couple mall cop movies recently, Paul Blart was pretty
good, I keep meaning to watch the other one...

with great power comes great responsibility, I hope that comes out in
the inevitable lengthy followups

actually, with Florida's "stand your ground law" (really freakn' bad
legislation, y'ask me...if you kill somebody even with good reason
there needs to be some accountability), one hopes the followups are
appropriately lengthy because this cannot stand, as the Dude would say

we need Al Sharpton down here, Jesse Jackson, Jimmy Carter, even
Clinton I guess...somebody...