seems latest Mad Men featured TCofL49.....

[Tom Beshear]

Yes, Matthew Weiner has acknowledged Yates and specifically Revolutionary Road as influences.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Kohut 
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  Part of the inspiration of Mad Men was the Richard Yates who was an ad man and wrote Revolutionary Road and other
  books, yes? 



  From: Tom Beshear <tbeshear at att.net>
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  We know Pete had ambitions to write -- which never came to much -- for lots of reasons it makes sense he would read CofL49.

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    From: Mark Kohut 
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    And I thouoght I once learned that there was no second hardcover printing at the time. so, total sales were
    some net of first and only printing.


    From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
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    I wonder about this too. The novel was published in March 1966, meaning in stores by February. Two excerpts had been published earlier, we know, including one in Esquire magazine.  It cost $3.95! in hardcover. 

    It seems to have been anticipated by many--the cool, the avant literary---because of the success--but poor sales says someone in a Google Books book I found--- of V. But in hardcover CofL49 did not seem to bestsell at least. I cannot find out any real or possible sales figures of the hardcover (yet).

    It seems the sales took off, not surprisingly, after the Bantam paperback was published. That psychedelic cover. And after all the review attention that was now being paid TRP. 


    From: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
    To: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> 
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    Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 4:58 PM
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    the time is summer-fall 1966 in the episode last night. the question
    is how aware would these or anyone else for that matter be of a
    somewhat underground novel like Lot 49. i would think admen would at
    this early stage be confused by a novel like 49. still too early
    maybe?

    On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:
    > For Pete, the book was probably by way of work-related research.  By the
    > late 60s the youth movement and youth counterculture were super hot topics
    > in the media and advertising (at least that's the way I remember it). While
    > Lot 49 wasn't explicitly all that much about youth culture per se, it
    > nevertheless was evocative and pointed more or less in that direction. I
    > remember thinking of it that way. The book contained stuff ad men needed to
    > keep abreast of.
    >
    > P
    >
    > I'm assuming Pete was still in the ad business--haven't seen the show in a
    > couple years.
    >
    >
    > On 5/7/2012 2:42 PM, Dave Monroe wrote:
    >
    >
    >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Dave Monroe<against.the.dave at gmail.com>
    >>  wrote:
    >>>
    >>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Mark Kohut<markekohut at yahoo.com>  wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> 'Mad Men,' A Conversation (Season 5, Episode 8)
    >>>> Wall Street Journal (blog)
    >>>>  From a brief, almost subliminal, glimpse of the cover, the book appears
    >>>> to be “The Crying of Lot 49,” Thomas Pynchon's complex 1966 postmodern
    >>>> novel. That flash sets the tone for this week's episode. I've never been a
    >>>> fan of Pynchon, but – my memory ...
    >>>> See all stories on this topic »
    >>>> 'Mad Men': An affair, and a resignation, to remember
    >>>> Washington Post (blog)
    >>>> and reading Thomas Pynchon's “The Crying of Lot 49” (classic
    >>>> introspective, borderline suicidal person move, and a relevant detail since
    >>>> it's about a woman dealing with her deceased former lover's estate). On top
    >>>> of everything else, the installment was ...
    >>>> See all stories on this topic »
    >>>> Mad Men Watch: Phone Booths and Lies
    >>>> TIME
    >>>> This week's episode opened with Pete reading Thomas Pynchon's The Crying
    >>>> of Lot 49 on the train. Even though it was Pynchon's shortest novel, it's
    >>>> pretty heavy reading for a commute, especially for a man who exchanged a
    >>>> wedding present for a .22 ...
    >>>> See all stories on this topic »
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4050623150817&set=p.4050623150817
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-reading-pynchon-on-bus-takes-pains-to-make-cov,3192/
    >>
    >








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