Back to AtD. "you will believe". p878

[Paul Mackin]

On 5/18/2012 9:05 PM, alice wellintown wrote:
> And, what kind of feminism is Tom toaking here? It's rather
> mainstream. I guess. So the trick is in the movies again. Yeah, he's a
> regular Shakespeare, you know, like the way he does the....what is it
> that Eliot took from Dickens? Or was that something Tom took after he
> got ridd of his bad one. Not an ear but a voice? Never did pay much
> attention to that elements of style, but that part that commands that
> we Be Clear. The tongue in the stone is no smoother than the sole.

Feminism? I duuno, is Yashmeen's principal interest one of establishing 
or fighting for women's equality? Or is her role something else?

The scene is some kind of crazy enactment of the Coming of Modernity.

I can see here an Annunciation--an announcement of things to come--with 
Cyprian's Angel Gabriel playing opposite Yashmeen's Blessed Mother, only 
this time its her tell him what's going to happen.  (a touch of feminism 
after all)

Reef of course is the Most Chaste Spouse Joseph, kept out of a physical 
role in the blessed conception by Angel Cyprian's Lucky Pierre 
intervention.

Is this a serious possibly?

P



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>>>> And when, a bit later, Yashmeen says "We are the future" how
>>>> far into the future did you think she--TRP?--meant...
>>>> 20s and Bloomsbury and wild 20s Jazz age permissiveness, etc..
>>>> Or, to the present, lossely speaking?
>>>
>> I think Yashmeen is foreseeing the vast changes coming in the postwar
>> world. Her cavorting with Cyprian, the role reversals, she sees in these
>> prophetic terms, all the while realizing that her work on Cyp is only
>> scratching the surface in things to come.  (couple of puns got worked in
>> there somewhere)
>