AtD: Remembering Memorial Day post.

[Mark Kohut]

When TRP has Reef, the manly man, speak of honor, I thought of this.......so I wonder as I stated
whether TRP is linking Reef's masculinity with soldiering (as Shakespeare did captruing his time) and
therefore very obliquely alluding to this famous Falstaff riff.....................

From: Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com>
To: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> 
Cc: P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org> 
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: AtD: Remembering Memorial Day post.


Prince (to Falstaff): Why, thou owest God a death. [exit]
Falstaff: 'Tis not due yet. I would be loath to pay him before his day. What need I be so forward with him that calls on me? Well, 'tis no matter; honour pricks me on. Yea, but how if honour prick me off when I come on? How then? Can honour set to a leg? No. Or an arm? No. Or take away the grief of a wound? No. Honour hath no skill in surgery, then? No. What is honour? A word. What is in the word honour? Air. A trim reckoning. Who hath it? He that died o'Wednesday. Doth he feel it? No. Doth he hear it? No. 'Tis insensible then? Yea, to the dead. But will it not live with the living? No. Why? Detraction will not suffer it. Therefore I'll none of it. Honour is a mere scutcheon. And so ends my catechism.

King Henry IV 5.1.127-140



On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:

Memorial Day - a day to remember what was lost, when conflict raged.
>We lost people, people who - odds are - somebody loved and will miss,
>people with unique talents and viewpoints.
>(and money, trees, buildings, raw materials, opportunities...)
>
>We're still losing people, to the same horror, by the way.  How can
>this waste be stopped?
>
>
>On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "As if just having discovered a level of 'reality' at which nations, like money in the bank,
>> are merged and indistinguishable--the obvious example here being the immense population
>> of the dead, military and civilian,due to the Great War everyone expects imminently to
>> seep over us. One hears mathematicians of both countries speak of 'changes of sign' when
>> wishing to distinguish England from Germany---but in the realm of pain and destruction, what can
>> polarity matter?'---p.903, 2/3 down
>>
>> The estimable Chris Hayes on the Up With Chris Hayes Show yesterday morn, did a verbal essay very along
>> the lines above and has been facing a shitstorm of angry criticism and plain interwebs hate over it. The more
>> things never change.......
>>
>> Check it out if time and interest. Send him some kind of verbal support at least,maybe?
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