GR translation: demolition man

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>>  Maybe not infinitely many but often more than seven types of ambiguous richness....this is
>> A necessary condition of his greatness, I say...
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> Paul asks again:
> Are the ambiguities numerable, or  is there some generalized feature to the writing that makes it unspecifically insinuating?  I might be inclined to the latter.
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> A screaming comes across the sky.
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> P

  Yes! Maybe they ARE "infinite" in the sense that life and history are.....The ambiguities would not then be number able.........
I expressed wrongly the banal observation I wanted to make...that not all " interpretations" are right......an infinite number of wrong ones, to be boring about it....

Here is something related that goes through my mind: the estimable Ron Rosenbaum, not lacking intellectual self-confidence, has written that there are only two---count 'me 2!---writers whom he ALWAYS rereads and learns something new (from the reading) Shakespeare and, wait for it, Nabokov!......A special mind or a special understanding of "learning something new" as
Janeites, Chaucerians, Joyceans, Dickensians, and readers of other great writers are always saying. Is RR the same guy lifelong, is one way to talk about this, as many say about rereading
Their favorites.

I say Pynchon, of course, but I would and have. 

" unspecifically insinuating" seems to me this bright day to be a wonderful phrase to use against
The Wood who argues that P's loose allegories say everything and nothing. I don't believe that
and in GR, about which we are talking, the connective paranoia theme could be described that way. ( a banalist--is,there such a word?--might say that that quality is in addition to specific insinuations as well
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>>> P
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>>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/8/2012 2:02 AM, jochen stremmel wrote:
>>>>>> I think what Pynchon refers to here is more general, not only in the
>>>>>> context of WW II or the high and low contact. It's about "a repetition
>>>>>> high and low", low like the malignant pun a filthy, mocking scoundrel
>>>>>> might make and high like a sympathetic magic.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's about playing with words and images, similes, metaphors. Like the
>>>>>> demolition man and the Trembler he sees in a spoon between a glass and
>>>>>> a plate, if he has to do the dishes.
>>>>> Going beyond the specific examples, we might want also to note that this superstitious and magical thinking is meant to exemplify impurity, the opposite of what the second level is supposed to produce or demonstrate?
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>>>>> Thinking that contact of the spoon with the cup might produce an explosion--or that a coffee brand name by mere name association will bring forth a cruel lady--are pollutions of thought. (of course in this case there IS a cruel lady)
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>>>>> And outside the Kabbalistic framework, the interrelatedness of all things for the paranoiac is suggested.  To the paranoiac everything is connected.  At least in Pynchon. Not sure how that applied to Pudding, but still . . . .
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>>>>> P
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>>>>>> 2012/11/7 Monte Davis <montedavis at verizon.net>:
>>>>>>> Jochen is correct about “demolition man” in  general, but in a WWII context
>>>>>>> I think it means Explosive Ordnance Disposal,  someone who *disarms* bombs.
>>>>>>> A “trembler” is a vibration-sensitive switch, its central tongue (an
>>>>>>> electrical contact) closing the circuit if it touches either the “high”
>>>>>>> contact above or the “low” contact beneath.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Mike Jing
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 2:22 AM
>>>>>>> To: Pynchon Mailing List
>>>>>>> Subject: GR translation: demolition man
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> P234.35-235.4  In the second antechamber is an empty red tin that held
>>>>>>> coffee. The brand name is Savarin. He understands that it means to say
>>>>>>> “Severin.” Oh, the filthy, the mocking scoundrel. . . . But these are not
>>>>>>> malignant puns against an intended sufferer so much as a sympathetic magic,
>>>>>>> a repetition high and low of some prevailing form (as, for instance, no sane
>>>>>>> demolition man at his evening dishwater will wash a spoon between two cups,
>>>>>>> or even between a glass and a plate, for fear of the Trembler it implies . .
>>>>>>> . because it’s a trembler-tongue he really holds, poised between its two
>>>>>>> fatal contacts, in fingers aching with having been so suddenly reminded). .
>>>>>>> . .
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What is the "demolition man" mentioned here?  Why the fear of tremblers?
>>>>>>> What is a trembler anyway?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also, what is the meaning of "high and low" in "a repetition high and low"?
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