It's Pynchon's world, we only try for a little privacy within it

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On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis at verizon.net>wrote:

> Part of it might be that Le Carre's work and Cornwell's own earlier
> intelligence work shared the context of an empire in decline: as in
> Fleming's books, MI5/MI6 knew (and resented) that their US counterparts had
> greater resources and reach, even in places that the UK had ruled not long
> before. There's a fin-de-siecle melancholy and resignation about the
> Circus.
>
> So if US triumphalism -- "the indispensable nation," "what shall we do
> about
> Egypt/Libya/Syria/Mali?" -- flourishes despite all evidence  that its
> imperial business model is obsolescent, wouldn't you expect that to rub Le
> Carre the wrong way? (Going for explanation rather than excuse or defense
> here)
>
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> Behalf
> Of rich
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:26 AM
> To: Markekohut
> Cc: pynchon -l
> Subject: Re: It's Pynchon's world, we only try for a little privacy within
> it
>
> not sure what you mean by "Le Carre is not liked and somehow influential to
> Pynchon for nothing"
>
> if there's anything about this scandal it's more like Homeland--the
> privileged and well-connected and how they fuck things up. Personally I
> think Petreaus get more praise than he really deserves. Iraq and
> Afghanistan
> are lost wars-only the casualty numbers keeps them from being thrown in
> with
> Vietnam. For the most pasrt the US military is highly trained and
> skilled--how they have been led is if you listen to folks like Thomas Ricks
> something that hasnt really been debated all that much.
>
> LeCarre though a great novelist has become a kind of crank unfortunately.
> the anti-americanism has become a bit stale imho
>
> rich
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > G-men spy on our spies; they rat on each other to our politicians.
> > Pure Pynchon. a knotted mcCarthyism, so to compress. their love
> > interests harass which breaks open the whole military/ corporate knot.
> Some.
> >
> > Le Carre is not liked and somehow influential to Pynchon for nothing.
> > One can almost imagine this pentagon quadrangle--oops, pentangle ( or
> > more) ---in GR, or time-changed, AtD.
> >
> >
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