Why we read TP

Markekohut markekohut at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 27 06:58:28 CST 2012


And I will add for the unique, artistic expression of a vision of life and history.

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On Nov 27, 2012, at 4:54 AM, Matthew Cissell <macissell at yahoo.es> wrote:

> The question can be rephrased as 'Why do we choose to read TP? Or, 'Why do we choose TP?' I should like to propose that the books choose us.
> 
> 	Responding to the Grace thread will require a longer post.
> ciao
> mc otis
> 
> From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> To: Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> 
> Cc: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>; pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org> 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Very misc related to grace
> 
> In response to your question, Bekah, I can only answer: yes.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Well Alice,  that post makes me wonder why we read Pynchon  -  is it for the ideas (big or small),  the style,  the weirdness/originality (when it happens), the dense narrative,  the Grace,   the challenge,  the snob appeal (if there is any),   other reasons?
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> Bekah
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> On Nov 26, 2012, at 3:15 PM, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Pynchon likes to take on the BIG ideas (Entropy, History, Virginity,
> > Gravity...Free Will & Grace) and turn them into pretzil logics or
> > force them into Koans that paradoxically turn out to be ironic book of
> > the dead (allusive parables) dead ends.
> >
> > Now, I'm no expert on Grace, or Pynchon, but I suspect that his use of
> > Grace is an example of the propensity described above, and
> > specifically the paraodoxical BIG idea Grace/Free Will.
> >
> > Why Pynchon does this or to what end is open to lotz of readings. I
> > suspect that he does it because he is lazy; he re-worksd old material
> > over and over again.
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