A Good Grace is Hardly Found

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Fri Nov 30 20:45:58 CST 2012


FO is IMO akin to Faulkner, Southern Gothic.  But Faulkner was never camp
or funny.  OConner was more modern, maybe proto POMO.

On Friday, November 30, 2012, wrote:

> I get it, but I wouldn't ever cross my mind to compare either to Flannery,
>  Didion's journalism is quite good; her fiction not so much.  I read a
> boxing article by JCO once that was good, but her fiction is ... not to my
> taste, let's say.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: robertberg5125 <robertberg5125 at comcast.net <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'robertberg5125 at comcast.net');>>
> To: kelber <kelber at mindspring.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'kelber at mindspring.com');>>; pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'pynchon-l at waste.org');>
> >
> Sent: Fri, Nov 30, 2012 1:47 am
> Subject: Re: A Good Grace is Hardly Found
>
>  Not sure about jumping in this thread but one of my worst 2 or 3 reads
> in the last, oh, 61 years have been J Didion/ J Carol Oates downers I kept
> waiting to let me off the hook.
>
> *Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless*
>
>
> -----Original message-----
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> *From: *kelber at mindspring.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'kelber at mindspring.com');>*
> To: *pynchon-l at waste.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'pynchon-l at waste.org');>*
> Sent: *Thu, Nov 29, 2012 15:54:14 GMT+00:00*
> Subject: *Re: A Good Grace is Hardly Found
>
>  As a person who struggles with severe bouts of depression, I avoid
> relentlessly-depressing writers like O'Connor. Had to read her in high
> school (Everything That Rises Must Converge), and vowed I'd never willingly
> subject myself to her darkness again. As a rabid Pynchon fan, I'm not
> looking for fluffy feel-good shit. But I don't want to read a series of
> stories whose sole purpose is to prove, however eloquently or wittily, that
> everything sucks. I'm also wary of novelists who throw in gratuitous
> horrors to give their otherwise tepid work dramatic weight. Which novelists
> am I talking about? I don't even know - I avoid writers who might even
> potentially be capable of doing this. Books with blurbs using phrases such
> as "after a horrifying tragedy, Hubert has to come to terms with ..." and
> so on. Pynchon writes of horrors, but he simultaneously hands out steady
> doses of intriguing mind-expanding prose and side explorations, by way of
> anesthetic. And I know he loves dogs too much to kill or torture them
> gratuitously.
>
> Laura
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: rich
> >Sent: Nov 29, 2012 10:31 AM
> >To: alice wellintown
> >Cc: pynchon -l
> >Subject: Re: A Good Grace is Hardly Found
> >
> >thanks for the suggestion alice. considering my mood lately maybe I
> >should read more of her. and apologies for being a dick
> >
> >rich
> >
> >On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 6:07 PM, alice wellintown
> > wrote:
> >> No probs, bros, I don't spect nothin less round this here list of
> >> late. But it was a great thing I wrote about grace; if you know what I
> >> mean. See, grace and free will are tropes that P just be playin wit.
> >>
> >> Now that O'Connor is another thing all together. She ain't messing
> >> round with it; she's dead in the eye serious. What a fine writer is
> >> Flannery O'Connor; her shorts are tight, her legs, even when they be
> >> stretched wooden ones, be long.
> >>
> >> http://www.csub.edu/english/engl375/o'connor.htmlx
>
>
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