The Feminization of American Culture: Ann Douglas: 9780374525583: Amazon.com: Books

Keith Davis kbob42 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 1 22:23:43 CDT 2012


So you're saying that because some authors aren't good at condensing their
ideas into shorter forms, they're not as good as those who are able to do
so? Not sure I agree with that, though it's an interesting idea. Is a two
hour Coltrane solo less telling than a two minute Miles solo? How to judge?
Is a sketch by Leonardo more important than the Sistine Chapel? Apples and
oranges.

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:35 PM, alice wellintown
<alicewellintown at gmail.com>wrote:

> I like the suggestion that a study of American authors would begin, or
> might begin, with the exemplary stories, short stories, or tales of
> great writers and not focus on novels these authors wrote. If this
> were done, of course, there would be little or nothing of Pynchon
> worthy of study. Though Entropy has been anthologized, though The
> Secret Integration is more an apprentice work than the juvenile
> hackings P released as Slow Learner, even these two stories, though
> often studied,  are not worth study, not if we plan to study
> excellence. We might call CL49 a long short story; sometimes the term
> novella is used by German, Italian, French ctitics to describe works
> the length of CL49, Bartleby, The Open Boat, Gatsby...In any event,
> and I won't argue the definition by length, though I wouldn't mind
> looking into Poe's claims about tales and their length, we might take
> some pleasure from these discussions were we to focus on short tales
> and, maybe a good way to proceed is to look into the elements, see how
> they work, in other words, do some analysis of tales written by
> Americans that are said to be great. There is nothing wrong with the
> trite opinions offered, but that they are trite: Faulkner is the
> Early 20th Century master and so on is such crap anyone can read at
> Wikipedia. Someone with balls might argue that Faulkner is greater
> only if we put emphasis on what he does better than most, mainly point
> of view. If we are searching for a better ironist, we need look no
> further than O. Henry. So on...of course, no one said ladies first,
> but I couldn't resist, so...
>



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