The Feminization of American Culture: Ann Douglas: 9780374525583: Amazon.com: Books

[Bled Welder]

Dolphins I have heard have some type of higher level nerve endings in their
teeth.  Probably to communicate with dolphins on other planets, Sirius for
example.  There are people around who will tell you the Nomma, Oennes,
creatures like Enki, was, is, a fish.  Amphibious.  Walked out of the
ocean, gave humans civilization, hung round, chatted up the ladies, then
split.  Either back into his house in sea, groovy pad I hear, or he may
have hopped in his shuttlecraft and to another star system he flew.
 Gilgamesh famously threw dragon's teeth onto the ground.  Or did he bite
the earth? which would appear to indicate that he was at least somewhat
reptilian, maybe amphibious.  He was very fond of telling people that his
mother is a god.

Why would the orbit around what is the most luminous star in our sky be
exactly 50 years?  It's so improbable that it seems--fishy to me.  Why did
Jason have 50 Argonauts.

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>wrote:

>  On 9/29/2012 12:26 PM, Bled Welder wrote:
>
> I know LA.  You're not so old, Paul.  Gods never die.
>
>  Why does my front right tooth hurt?
>
>
> There was a 50s British movie where the working class lass puzzling at the
> mouth of the upper class twit whom she had just kissed asks,  Am them your
> own teeth.
>
>
> P
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> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>wrote:
>
>>  On 9/29/2012 11:49 AM, Bled Welder wrote:
>>
>> I would think that it does.  One might almost go the way of....how or why
>> did Wallace end it, and certain gods live?  On?
>>
>>  Paul, am I hallucinating?
>>
>>  Am I?
>>
>>  Or I AM.
>>
>>
>>  Once as a child I sat through an I AM meeting. Theosophy.  Back in the
>> 30s.  It was in an old residential hotel in downtown L.A. where my ancient
>> Great Aunt and her husband lived.  I think it was that building you still
>> see in movies and TV with the Big Neon Sign on top.  It seems so real.
>>
>>
>> P
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>wrote:
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>>>  On 9/29/2012 11:19 AM, Keith Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> This discussion leads naturally to questions of P's substance use...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  And the difference between alcohol and hallucinogenic substances.
>>>
>>> Alcohol can be hallucinogenic too but by that time you're so far gone it
>>> doesn't matter.
>>>
>>>
>>> P
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Bled Welder <bledwelder at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hate to break this to you, but the gods gave us booze.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Ian Livingston <
>>>> igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Whiskey don't make liars, it just makes fools
>>>>> So I didn't mean to say it, but I meant what I said" --James McMurtry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 9/29/2012 7:41 AM, alice wellintown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The big three of the 30s and 40s, Fitzgerald, Hemingway, and
>>>>>>>> Faulkner were
>>>>>>>> all heavy alcohol users.  Was this mainly to fight inner demons, or
>>>>>>>> was it
>>>>>>>> integral to their creative powers?  Their writing was so different.
>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>> were the common elements? Where was the "family resemblance"?
>>>>>>>> (Wittgenstein)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking back, from Wittgenstein, we might say that the idea, a family
>>>>>>> resemblance, is one that, if only when we look back, peep in the
>>>>>>> public record, open the old photo albums, watch those old home
>>>>>>> movies,
>>>>>>>   generates memories and defeated desires, so Nihilism...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and, like the phrase about family resemblance, American Nihilism,
>>>>>>> while not fathered by Nietzsche, looks a lot like the mustached
>>>>>>> European madman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We might also photoshop into the portrait, Mr Eliot, who is, after
>>>>>>> all, as much a part of this American generation of nihilists as the
>>>>>>> others, though he does find a dead tradition to bury his individual
>>>>>>> talents in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And there are lotz of others, though not as famous as these members
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the family.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But what kind of nihilism? There are so many in American fiction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, we might say that  Pynchon, with his early works, V., and Lot49,
>>>>>>> is much in the family; no conclusion or final illumination, no
>>>>>>> Joycean
>>>>>>> epiphany. The heart is darkness, the bomb is pushed from its
>>>>>>> precipice
>>>>>>> by the boys, the island burns, the beasty is in us and we are
>>>>>>> metaphysically and aesthetically lost; sometimes in the pun house,
>>>>>>> sometimes in the labyrinth, sometimes in the mundane stranger's
>>>>>>> murdering meaninglessness under the indifferent sun , sometimes in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> grip of Them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does Booze make this nihilism more intense, release the aesthetic
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the metaphysical sickness unto death? Camus talked of suicide and
>>>>>>> rolling a stone; perhaps this is what the booze soaked nihilism
>>>>>>> afforded?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I kind of think it might.  For example Proust and Joyce weren't big
>>>>>> drinkers, and both  In Search of Lost Time and Ulysses ended quite
>>>>>> affirmatively.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if Emily Bronte (Wuthering Heights) and Samuel Richardson
>>>>>> (Clarissa) might not have taken a drop or two to get them into a darker
>>>>>> view of things.  They were quite the exceptions to their respective eras.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On a personal note I've observed that watching the  PBS nightly news
>>>>>> in a semi alcoholic haze makes the very serious discussions  appear
>>>>>> slightly  absurd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   --
>>>>> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
>>>>> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust
>>>>> in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness
>>>>> groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates than the simplest
>>>>> urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> www.innergroovemusic.com
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>>>
>>>
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