Time in Fiction and Narrative....but wait! There's more!

[Prashant Kumar]

Let me retract ahistorical. I mean it denotatively; V and AtD in
particular, he stands historical contexts in opposition to each other, not
a lack of context but a plurality and syncretism of contexts.

P.

On 3 October 2012 16:18, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Poulet on time.
>
> I cannot agree w ahistorical.
>
> Endings of maybe all novels after V.  " bring it all home" don ' t they?
> And V. Seems meant to stop.
>
> I read that Steiner too, young like you, and it was very famous and again
> I wonder if TRP did....but prob not and might only be true thru GR......
>
> Re P and paranoia...."paranoia runs deep, into your life it will creep".
> As, who, Buffalo Springfield sang while TRP was writing GR......he felt it
> hard, I say........it closed the endless recursive ness he coulda been
> caught in...
>
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> B
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> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 3, 2012, at 1:55 AM, Prashant Kumar <siva.prashant.kumar at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Anyone know of any good studies on time in fiction? Counting physical,
> psychological and Proustian.
> >
> > As an aside, I've been thinking recently about the nature of paranoia in
> early Pynchon. Friend of mine is doing his thesis on Proust via Lacan, and
> I've noticed in conversation how the Lacanian notion of the "desired
> object" is quite nicely applicable to V. In this sort of framework, one
> could see paranoia something engendered by the dislocation of the desired
> object, and a necessary consequence of the search that results. An attempt
> to reify and instantiate some lack, a hole? Occurs to me that this may also
> work in CoL49. Want to know what continentalists think of this.
> >
> > I've said before that I view Pynchon as a perfect charlatan, and I've
> always viewed the paranoia as resulting from his particular approach, sort
> of ahistorical, a bricolage, juxtaposing everything and implying
> connections -- those implied  in turn implying and soon you're off -- but
> I'm wondering now if this is just a corollary of Pynchonian narrative being
> funamentally a quest. Question then becomes: what, if anything, is the
> telos? Maybe there is none; more than one critic I've read has noted that
> (and I don't think this applies to later P to the same extent) Pynchon's
> novels don't end, they stop.
> >
> > There's a passage in Language and Silence (Steiner):
> >
> > "...grounded in historical circumstance, in a late stage of linguistic
> and formal civilization in which the expressive achievements of the past
> seem to weigh exhaustively on the possibilities of the present, in which
> word and genre seem trivial"
> >
> > The context here is (suggestively) a discussion of the metafictionists
> as inheritors of the minimalist late modernism of Beckett.
> >
> > Wondering what y'all think of this notion of "the oppression of the
> past" (which I think is a charmingly coloured phrase).
> >
> >
> > Prashant
>
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