The Feminization of American Culture: Ann Douglas: 9780374525583: Amazon.com: Books
Paul Mackin
mackin.paul at verizon.net
Wed Oct 3 09:55:37 CDT 2012
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/may/25/american-dream-great-gatsby
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Gatsby_%282013_film%29
ography of Fitzgerald in the early 50s revived interest in the books. A
review in Time magazine hooked me. They became available in cheap
paperbacks. Except for Gatsby they'd probably been out of print.
The bio was entitled The Far Side of Paradise, a take off on the first
of the novels, This Side of Paradise.
P
On 10/2/2012 8:54 PM, alice wellintown wrote:
> And, there in the opening chapter of TN we have, what in The Pat Hobby
> Stories will make for a play within a play within a plot within a plot
> in a Hollywood movie lot, and the kind of plotting Pynchon will play
> with, as writers morph into film makers and the lots they live in as
> made for movies, and tv, as the lives or characters they play or take
> their roles from. So Rosemary on the beach, not working, is called
> into a plot. What plot?
>
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2012, alice wellintown wrote:
>
>
> Suppose we apply that book, How to Read Novels Like a Professor to
> TN, the first passage, the opening, so argues our prof, is worth a
> second, close reading. And, of course, TN confirms this. The girl,
> the description of the girl, so tender, so just on the cusp of
> perfect beauty, not too young, just old enough, next to the fading
> flower, her mother, now she springs, she is a dancer, out of the
> hotel that merges with the sea under the high sun, the sun that
> clips close her shadow, it is too bright to see. What has
> Fitzgerald done?
>
> And, as earlier we've peeped in on an early bather, when the sun
> was only rising, we now visit the beach, a boy of 12 flashes by,
> rosemary now, in the water, the hairy man drinks...sharks, dark
> skin and light skin sit apart....
>
> And here, the poetry, not quite as tender as that Fitzgerald uses
> to describe the girl in the water; how it tenderly pulled her down
> out of the heat.
>
> Yes, TN passes the opening lines test with tender colors!
>
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2012, wrote:
>
> I like Fitzgerald- but then I'm partial to Keats. Two scenes
> stand out
> for me from the otherwise wonderfully masochistic
> deconstruction of Dick Diver in Tender is the Night:
>
> the scene in Switzerland from the balustrade, looking out
> into the
> visto- It might have been something like this:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Lauterbrunnental_train.jpg
>
> where the space is suddenly transected by filamentous tendrils of
> lightening. It reminded me of GR, when Slothrop is on the
> lamb, either
> in Geneva or Zurich, I can't remember which, and the narrator
> remarks
> on how this Swiss venue is a magnet for genius: Joyce,
> Einstein... He
> could have listed others- Shelly, Jung, & etc., just
> something about
> the place.
>
> And such a wonderful contrast- the cerebral north with the
> warm, mellow
> Riviera, and the dinner tables floating into the night.
>
> Then there is another- quirky scene- where Dick is taken to a
> "parlor"
> of sorts, and clearly the people there are smoking hemp, and
> suddenly
> everything is very futuristic, not at all weighed down by The
> Depression, despite the impending horror of WW II. Very Mod.
>
> It's not hard to see (and feel) the Fitzgeraldean influence on
> Pynchon,
> and that without even mentioning the intro to "Been Down So
> Long...."
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>
> To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>; pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 1, 2012 1:21 pm...
> Subject: Re: The Feminization of American Culture: Ann Douglas:
> 9780374525583: Amazon.com: Books
>
>
>
> > Gatsby is a marvel, but it's one small book.
>
> While Gatsby always appeared symbolically overloaded to me -
> "the green
> light at the end of the pier" and everything -, I consider
> Tender is
> the Night to be one of the best American novels ever. Fitzgerald's
> skills do better unfold on the long distance. The rhythm, the
> experience of time. Here the author treats some of his basic
> themes
> like love, addiction and psychosis more convincingly than
> anywhere else
> in his work. And the book really breathes the Mediterranean aroma.
> Although I read the novel carefully several times, I still
> don't know
> how Fitzgerald manages to evoke that positive feeling in the
> reader
> (the tenderness the title mentions) until the very end despite
> everything - the second water-ski scene is simply heartbreaking -
> falling into pieces. It's really magic (I know no other word
> here).
> Together with Gravity's Rainbow and Moby Dick it's my favorite
> American
> novel.
>
> What is it that you don't like about it?
>
> On 01.10.2012 00:15, malignd at aol.com wrote:
>
> It's Faulkner for the 20th century; for the first half, in a rout.
> Hemingway wrote great stories (so did Faulkner) but only one
> great
> novel, and that was his first. Try to read Across the River and
> Through the Trees without laughing. Gatsby is a marvel, but
> it's one
> small book. Kerouac? Please ....
>
>
>
>
>
>
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