Fitzgerald's TN
Keith Davis
kbob42 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 4 13:41:46 CDT 2012
Very good
On Oct 4, 2012 2:36 PM, "Mark Sacha" <msacha1121 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Trying to get a grip on intention in Blood Meridian is very hard. My first
> vague thought is the timelessness of violence, referring back to the
> epigraph about a 300,000 year old human skull that had been scalped. The
> judge will never die. It's an integral part of nature - of some natures.
> More that the possibilities of character are sort of inscribed.
>
> McCarthy has this conviction about inherent disposition that he goes over
> and over in his fiction and in the rare interviews that he's given. In the
> Wall Street Journal interview around the time The Road was published he
> mentioned that he thinks that to the extent people are shaped they also are
> born with something that can't be molded. Something roughly equivalent to a
> soul, although it's more of an alignment, a way that they're encoded to
> react to the world. Maybe that's why he makes such use of boy protagonists.
> The child of Blood Meridian "can neither read nor write and in him broods
> already a taste for mindless violence". On the other hand you have the
> child of The Road, who is born into a world of incomprehensible, normative
> violence, and yet his good nature is virtually unchanged by it.
>
> Then there's the issue that in light of its context so much of Blood
> Meridian is beautiful. You get the sense that it shouldn't be.
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> A young writer- friend of mine recently read Blood Meridian and siad it
>> was the first novel that made him feel life might not be worth living. (
>> please, all, I am not offering this as any proper response but one from a
>> congenital Romantic who felt, overFelt the novel narcissistically. )
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Actually, this reminds me of Blood Meridian, also. Sentences packed with
>> meaning and nuance. At first, the violence is almost overwhelming, but it
>> just keeps coming until...I don't know how to describe it, but there is an
>> effect that comes from the repetition and the POV of the narrator. He is
>> totally neutral.
>>
>> I don't know McCarthy's intention, but it seems to have something to do
>> with pointing out that we all have this whole spectrum of possibilities
>> within us. Made me even more concerned for my kids out in the world. Thanks
>> a lot....
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The letter from Max Perkins is very revealing. Thank you. It brought to
>>> mind Alice's suggestion of a way to judge the quality of writing. "The
>>> amount of meaning you get into a sentence...."
>>>
>>> I haven't read Gatsby for many years, and will have to add that to the
>>> list.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm feeling tender toward a reading myself. Thanks, motivators, you
>>>> know who you are.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That settles it. When I finish Blood Meridian, and complete the course
>>>> of anti-depressants, TN is next.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:07 AM, alice wellintown <
>>>> alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> so, though I've read Fitz more times than I care to admit, and Gatsby
>>>>> more times than almost any other book, I was prompted to open TN and
>>>>> take a close reading look into how it is constructed. More on this
>>>>> later...but the names, a Mr Flesh, a couple of Neverquivers, Diver,
>>>>> and names that read like advetisments, an characters who comment on
>>>>> the jingles of names. So, nothing wrong with stupid names. Shakespeare
>>>>> was not afraid of them. Pynchon only pushes them to new lows, as in
>>>>> low puns, a comic tradition.
>>>>>
>>>>> The faces; the sculpted bodies and faces are also there, not as in
>>>>> Hemingway or Faulkner.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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