Chabon mentions Pynchon
Michael Bailey
michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com
Mon Oct 29 19:22:40 CDT 2012
i liked VftGS too, i remember writing favorably about it here but i
was kind of tough on the last part which was the sort of multimedia
diary of a young teenager in a reasonably likely -- at least, not
unreasonably unlikely -- future (given certain assumptions) --
retracting that a little, i guess it was an interesting contrast to
the rest of the book, some of which seemed like a rather harsh, and
even ad hominem (but if so, contrary to what i know of its target)
lampooning of the flow of a certain school of discourse often
associated with the initials dfw...if it was, it didn't seem
completely apt...
(so i guess, retracting my negativity on the ending, but raising the
possibility of a negativity about some of the middle...)
(a negativity possibly ad-bookinem... due to my own slovenly losing of
the book under my car seat, paying the lbrary full price for it, and
the next day finding it)
(so maybe i'll look at it again)
(because I can't even remember who the goon squad is supposed to be...)
so, umm, never mind (-;
On Mon, Oct 29, 201s2 at 4:39 PM, <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:
> I enjoyed Goon Squad. It's playful and experimental but plot driven.
>
> Haven't read The Keep.
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> To: Robert Mahnke<rpmahnke at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: Chabon mentions Pynchon
>
> True observation I think. I remember when THE KEEP was published. Part of
> the male bias is to not see women doing meta-games in any art it would seem.
> Think about the art world.
>
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> On Oct 29, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Robert Mahnke <rpmahnke at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> FWIW, I really liked The Keep, and don't recall any fizzling. Egan played
> the sort of meta games in it that get one acknowledged as a serious
> novelist, but you don't see mentioned in those circles as much as you would
> if she were a guy. IMHO.
>
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bekah, what are your thoughts on Jennifer Egan? I've only read The Keep.
>> It held my interest, but the "meta" aspects of it seemed a little trite, and
>> it pretty much fizzled to nothing at the end. Haven't read her Pulitzer
>> prize-winner.
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
>>
>> >Because US publishers like women to write the far more lucrative
>> > "women's books as does Jodi Picault, and maybe the better women writers,
>> > Barbara Kingsolver, Anne Tyler, Marilynne Robinson etc. Women authors
>> > are fully accepted in the nonfiction and crime genres. There are a few who
>> > can slip by into praiseworthy literary fiction (whatever that means) -
>> > Cynthia Ozick is one. Karen Yamashita, (! - I, Hotel ) Toni Morrison
>> > (fading), Gish Jen (newer) are some others - Julie Otsuka maybe.
>> >
>> > Zadie Smith is still more British than American, and the very British
>> > Hilary Mantel is excellent now with the Cromwell stories. Rowling's new one
>> > - Casual Vacancy was … interesting but … she's no Zadie Smith by a long
>> > shot.
>> >
>> >Shirley Hazzard is from Australia now in the US - I doubt she has another
>> > book in her. Alice Munro (Canada) is also aging now - as is Ozick.
>> >
>> >Bekah
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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