Today's discussion question

Ian Livingston igrlivingston at gmail.com
Thu Aug 15 20:44:43 CDT 2013


Well, the (Tibetan Mahayana) Buddhist model is not limited to this world.
There are myriad other worlds in Samsara. We're only passing through this
one, en route to eventual enlightenment.

I've never encountered anything like persuasive evidence of reincarnation.


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:33 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like to see a math model of just the human accounting on how the
> present exploding population works with retreaded souls as a ratio of new
> to old.  There must be a huge source of new human souls yet to go
> spinning on this Merry-Go-Round.
>
> On Thursday, August 15, 2013, Bekah wrote:
>
>> If reincarnation is true there are a whole lot of dead people waiting for
>> another shot at life - either that or they've come back as cockroaches -
>>  in which case I suspect we have extra lives coming from somewhere.
>>
>> I just don't see how the accounting works out.
>>
>>
>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fact-or-fiction-living-outnumber-dead
>>
>> Bek
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2013, at 3:53 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The concept of reincarnation long predates the advent of Buddhism in
>> India.
>> >
>> > I don't find it useful, since access to lessons learned in a previous
>> lives isn't common nor plausible when through hypnosis people recall being
>> Napoleon or Cleopatra. If there is a kernel of truth in the concept of
>> reincarnation it seems to me useful as a way to understand inherent
>> knowledge, instincts, in every living being, passed on via eons of
>> evolution. Collective Conciousness?
>> >
>> > David Morris
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thursday, August 15, 2013, wrote:
>> > It's not remotely plausible.  Where would you suggest this "knowledge"
>> comes from?
>> > The idea that the Tibetans
>> > know something in regard to reincarnation that we don't seems perfectly
>> > plausible.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
>> > To: P-list List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> > Sent: Thu, Aug 15, 2013 11:16 am
>> > Subject: Re: Today's discussion question
>> >
>> > Unless it is true. This idea has been around for a long time and has
>> had some
>> > non bubble headed proponents who may perceive things unseen by a
>> certain kind of
>> > logic. I am agnostic on all questions that seek to definitively
>> describe other
>> > dimensions of experience, but some of my own experiences have kept me
>> from
>> > closing the door on this and I do not find that leaving the question
>> open
>> > induces any more bubble headedness than watching TV. The idea that the
>> Tibetans
>> > know something in regard to reincarnation that we don't seems perfectly
>> > plausible.
>> > On Aug 14, 2013, at 6:18 PM, David Morris wrote:
>> >
>> > > But you're right about my attitudes; the idea that the DL is a
>> reincarnated
>> > spirit is as bubble-headed as any other religious myth.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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