Bleeding Edge - audio

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Tue Aug 20 19:02:06 CDT 2013


P-lite bothers me.  I've never heard of Faulkner-lite, thank Rhesus!
Maybe that's what Flannery O'Conner did?

On Tuesday, August 20, 2013, John Bailey wrote:

> Anybody read Ruth Ozeki's A Tale for the Time Being? One of my
> favourite reads this year (and longlisted for the Man Booker). A few
> of the subjects she touches on seemed cribbed from New Yorker articles
> or the like - the Great Garbage Patch, some quantum physics bits - but
> the mixmaster approach to genre, time, voice, reality is very
> reminiscent of P-lite.
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Thanks -  I'm adding to my little (hah!) wish list.   Williams' book
> reminds me to mention "The Flamethrowers"  by Rachel Kushner which I'm just
> now reading.   She also wrote "Telex From Cuba" which I'll get to,  I'm
> sure.
> >
> > Also - Karen Tei Yamashita who wrote the amazing I Hotel.   Yamashita
> isn't Pynchon by any means - she doesn't try to be.  But she writes some
> very good socio-political stuff - somewhat better than Franzen,  imo.  (And
> yes,  fwiw,  I very much enjoyed Franzen's novels.)
> >
> > Bekah
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Jamie Collinson <jamie at bigdada.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Joy Williams' 'The Quick and the Dead' is very Pynchonian whilst being
> entirely original. Highly recommended.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 20, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Charles Albert <cfalbert at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Working my way through Possession at the moment. After some initial
> qualms about whether I cared enough about Ash and LaMotte to wade through
> the stanzas (the Romantics have never been a personal fave), epics, fairy
> tales and petty bickering, I have begun to appreciate the stratagems and
> themes.
> >>>
> >>> Love the allusions to Blackadder, and Pynchon. Was particularly struck
> by the confluences with the latter in LaMotte's Melusina. there is an
> extensive  treatment of those "agents" who shuttle between the temporal and
> perpetual, and make frequent appearances in Pynchon's works.
> >>>
> >>> And I'll make yet another pitch on behalf of Ozick, whose Messiah of
> Stockholm has long been an object of adoration.
> >>>
> >>> love,
> >>> cfa
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >>> Joan Didion is very good!   I feel as though I have not read nearly
> enough by her.
> >>>
> >>> But I don't think *most* serious women authors look that much to
> Pynchon for influence,  but rather (or also) to writers like A.S. Byatt
> (Possession),  Cynthia Ozick (The Shawl),  Toni Morrison (early works),
>  Shirley Hazzard (The Great Fire/ Transit of Venus),  Zadie Smith (On
> Beauty).  Maybe also Margaret Atwood or Jane Smiley.  (keeping myself to
> living authors).
> >>>
> >>> I recently read Americanah by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie - it's her best
> to date,  puts me in mind of Zadie Smith.
> >>>
> >>> Bekah
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:00 AM, alice wellintown <
> alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > So, on the females that P may have influenced, and on that fog faded
> passage at the close of IV, that restless lass out on the road in a
> stinray, I think of Joan Didion. Yeah, and I think that P could take some
> lessons there. And her essays on the fog, the wind, on California....
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> http://silverbirchpress.wordpress.com/2012/10/13/joan-didions-1969-corvette-stingray/
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tuesday, August 20, 2013, alice wellintown wrote:
> >>> > You can't be serious. The closing passage of V. or of "Mondaugan's
> >>> > Story", of "The Secret Integration", of GR, of M&D, of AGTD, but not
> >>> > of those Brady Bunched books, made for the stoner nostalgiac who
> rides
> >>> > thru the fog that blends with the kool smoke when he rolls up the
> >>> > window and tunes into the radio vibes and joins in the sing along
> >>> > jingles or slouches slothfully, a Thanatoid veteran of the Tube wars
> >>> > who California dreams himself out on the shoulder of the Big Sur gone
> >>> > west young man then veers south toward the boarder where perhaps a
> >>> > blonde mermaid in a vet, a hippie bus, maybe even a cop on a
> >>> > motorbike, just deciding to be cool this time, whatever...fades
> >>> > away...and finds the America
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