war lies from the Ministry of Truth?

[malignd at aol.com]

Re first sentence -- ? you succeeded.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
To: P-list List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2013 06:47 PM
Subject: Re: war lies from the Ministry of Truth?





Not going for sober or well reasoned. Just don't believe bombs from a 3rd party  
are an intelligent way to stop violence in a civil war..  Sure this is on the 
paranoid side but betting that they are lying puts anyone well over 60 percent 
right. FOIA research shows that we supported Saddam while he used poison Gas on 
Iran.  Saddam was the aggressor.

I repeat, Why is it that we are only deeply concerned about the human rights of 
a people when we want to go to war with them or starve them?

On Aug 27, 2013, at 6:06 PM, malignd at aol.com wrote:

> Another sober, well-reasoned argument from Mr. Tracy.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> To: Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
> Cc: P-list List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2013 11:38 am
> Subject: Re: war lies from the Ministry of Truth?
> 
> If you think Obama secretly wants to get the US involved in Syria, then I 
suggest your logic is akin to the Egyptians who think we are secretly allied 
with the Muslim Brotherhod.  No matter what the US does in Syria, its interests 
would be better served by NOT doing.  Most everybody can see that reality, but 
some would like to ignore it.
> 
> David Morris
> 
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2013, Joseph Tracy wrote:
> Anyone else wondering about the convenient setting up and crossing of the 
chemical weapons red line in Syria. Those photos of children who look like they 
are holding their eyes closed make anyone else a bit nervous? Anyone else smell 
a little yellow cake, some WMD, Gulf of Tonkin? Why should we trust the people 
who start these wars, and then go to extreme lengths to prevent the truth of 
what they do from being known? Haven't they lied every  time?
> 
> What makes it ok to kill children in a drone strike, or to endorse Saddam's 
use of nerve gas against Iran but wrong for the Syrian government to " defend 
itself" .  We sell every weapon known to man except nuclear, ok Israel's use of 
white phosphorus,  use cluster bombs, depleted uranium. Isn't Killing civilians 
just wrong? Shouldn't we start by cleaning our own house?  Is the US government 
the one in a position to scold and set things right after the debacle in Iraq?
> 
> Why is it that we are only deeply concerned about the human rights of a people 
when we want to go to war with them or starve them?
> 
> Is there really some massive groundswell of US citizens desperate to intervene 
in a civil war in Syria?
> 
> Is Obama really  the superman of truth, justice and the American way whose 
only problem is the nefarious use of kryptonite by evil republicans?  Stay tuned 
for the next exciting episode of American militarism on the go! We spy on you 
because we love you. It's for your own good.


 
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