war lies from the Ministry of Truth?

[Charles Albert]

Does anyone have any idea on which side Bruce comes down?

'cause I'm with him...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vCww3j2-w

love,
cfa


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:38 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:

> This makes me extra-skeptical. A letter signed by the likes of Joe
> Lieberman and Karl Rove talking about wide-scale, escalating chemical
> attacks, before any definitive proof has been offered (the Administration
> plans to reveal it "later on"), sounds like standard-issue, self-serving
> support-propaganda from the Israel lobby. And can I add that, as a Jew, I'm
> so fucking sick of my ethnicity being defined by the racist, militaristic
> excesses of that tiny country over there.
>
> As to your earlier post citing an article that claims that Obama is being
> pressured into sending "a few strategic strikes from the air" by those two
> powerhouses, Britain and France, who have an iron stranglehold on US
> foreign and military policy, well, that's just laughable.
>
> Laura
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Morris **
> Sent: Aug 28, 2013 11:14 AM
> To: "kelber at mindspring.com" **
> Cc: "pynchon-l at waste.org" **
> Subject: Re: war lies from the Ministry of Truth?
>
> http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-iraq-supergroup-reunion.html
>
> *The Iraq supergroup reunion*
>
> by digby
>
> If you weren't skeptical about intervention in Syria before, this<http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/experts-obama-here-what-do-syria_751267.html?page=2>should
> make you think twice:
>
> Dear Mr. President:
>
> Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad has once again violated your red line,
> using chemical weapons to kill as many as 1,400 people in the suburbs of
> Damascus. You have said that large-scale use of chemical weapons in Syria
> would implicate “core national interests,” including “making sure that
> weapons of mass destruction are not proliferating, as well as needing to
> protect our allies [and] our bases in the region.” The world—including
> Iran, North Korea, and other potential aggressors who seek or possess
> weapons of mass of destruction—is now watching to see how you respond.
>
> We urge you to respond decisively by imposing meaningful consequences on
> the Assad regime. At a minimum, the United States, along with willing
> allies and partners, should use standoff weapons and airpower to target the
> Syrian dictatorship’s military units that were involved in the recent
> large-scale use of chemical weapons. It should also provide vetted moderate
> elements of Syria’s armed opposition with the military support required to
> identify and strike regime units armed with chemical weapons.
>
> Moreover, the United States and other willing nations should consider
> direct military strikes against the pillars of the Assad regime. The
> objectives should be not only to ensure that Assad’s chemical weapons no
> longer threaten America, our allies in the region or the Syrian people, but
> also to deter or destroy the Assad regime’s airpower and other conventional
> military means of committing atrocities against civilian non-combatants. At
> the same time, the United States should accelerate efforts to vet, train,
> and arm moderate elements of Syria’s armed opposition, with the goal of
> empowering them to prevail against both the Assad regime and the growing
> presence of Al Qaeda-affiliated and other extremist rebel factions in the
> country.
>
> Left unanswered, the Assad regime’s mounting attacks with chemical weapons
> will show the world that America’s red lines are only empty threats. It is
> a dangerous and destabilizing message that will surely come to haunt us—one
> that will certainly embolden Iran’s efforts to develop nuclear weapons
> capability despite your repeated warnings that doing so is unacceptable. It
> is therefore time for the United States to take meaningful and decisive
> actions to stem the Assad regime’s relentless aggression, and help shape
> and influence the foundations for the post-Assad Syria that you have said
> is inevitable.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ammar Abdulhamid
> Elliott Abrams
> Dr. Fouad Ajami
> Dr. Michael Auslin
> Gary Bauer
> Paul Berman
> Max Boot
> Ellen Bork
> Ambassador L. Paul Bremer
> Matthew R. J. Brodsky
> Dr. Eliot A. Cohen
> Senator Norm Coleman
> Ambassador William Courtney
> Seth Cropsey
> James S. Denton
> Paula A. DeSutter
> Larry Diamond
> Dr. Paula J. Dobriansky
> Thomas Donnelly
> Dr. Michael Doran
> Mark Dubowitz
> Dr. Colin Dueck
> Dr. Nicholas Eberstadt
> Ambassador Eric S. Edelman
> Reuel Marc Gerecht
> Abe Greenwald
> Christopher J. Griffin
> John P. Hannah
> Bruce Pitcairn Jackson
> Ash Jain
> Dr. Kenneth Jensen
> Allison Johnson
> Dr. Robert G. Joseph
> Dr. Robert Kagan
> Lawrence F. Kaplan
> Jamie Kirchick
> Irina Krasovskaya
> Dr. William Kristol
> Bernard-Henri Levy
> Dr. Robert J. Lieber
> Senator Joseph I. Lieberman
> Tod Lindberg
> Dr. Thomas G. Mahnken
> Dr. Michael Makovsky
> Ann Marlowe
> Dr. Clifford D. May
> Dr. Alan Mendoza
> Dr. Joshua Muravchik
> Governor Tim Pawlenty
> Martin Peretz
> Danielle Pletka
> Dr. David Pollock
> Arch Puddington
> Karl Rove
> Randy Scheunemann
> Dan Senor
> Ambassador John Shattuck
> Lee Smith
> Henry D. Sokolski
> James Traub
> Ambassador Mark D. Wallace
> Michael Weiss
> Leon Wieseltier
> Khawla Yusuf
> Robert Zarate
> Dr. Radwan Ziadeh
>
>
> I'm not sure why Ken Adelman and Frank Gaffney aren't on board, but
> perhaps they're pushing for a full scale invasion.
>
> I suppose that the fact that Max Boot, Cliff May and Elliot Abrams are
> signatories doesn't *automatically* make it a daft idea. But it sure puts
> a thumb on the scales.
>
> The *Weekly Standard* considers all those people to be "experts", by the
> way. And it's right. They are experts in one particular thing which one
> would have thought they'd be embarrassed to admit after that little bobble
> back in 2003.
>
>
> .
> digby 8/27/2013 09:00:00 AM<http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-iraq-supergroup-reunion.html>
> ******
>
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