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[Fiona Shnapple]

In GR Brown is important; the whiteness of the toilet bowls. The blackness,
waste, death in the White man, his load, his burden unburdened history, bad
shit. The toiletship, is a Gam(e), a traditional scatological, that may be
analyzed by specialists (Freudians, neo-Fredians, Marxists...), the
inside jokes of specialization can be outed. In the big sprawling satire,
GR, where the model for the gam and game is Moby-Dick, see The Rosebud
chapter (asshole farting French gam), we are overwhelmed with specialized
and technical language. But here in BE the toilets are not scatological
satire, but waste piled higher than the towers.

On Tuesday, December 3, 2013, David Morris wrote:

> Besides, the toilet ship isn't a wind tunnel (but a fart tunnel works), it
> is another rocket, a big turd in the water. As such it is also a penis.
>
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2013, David Morris wrote:
>
>> Yea, you lost me too, except for toilets and showers being next to each
>> other, but aren't they usually so?
>>
>> Certain themes (like shit) in GR are heavily influenced by Norman O
>> Brown's Life Against Death which is a Neo Freudian analysis. Brown ties
>> shit to Swift's Yahoos, shit flingers, and ultimately to money, and all
>> that humanity can buy or build with it.  This is where Pynchon's "Shit,
>> Money & the Word" comes from.  There is also much more of Brown's  *Life
>> Against Death* in GR.  GR lovers really should read it.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2013, Heikki Raudaskoski wrote:
>>
>> In both cases, though, toilets seem to stand metaphorically for something
>>> else (the Rocket's wind tunnel in GR, hashslingrzian secrets in BE). Yet
>>> the image of the Toiletship can also be seen as a metaphor of metonymy.
>>>
>>> Heikki
>>> -
>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>>
>>
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