BEER -- chapters 10 and 23 (possible spoilers) -- PROMIS 1.5

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Wed Dec 11 20:16:24 CST 2013


You know what big feet mean?

Big shoes!

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013, Fiona Shnapple wrote:

> When Maxine sees the shoes, she thinks the shoes are Elain's "idea of
> nice" (102), midnight-brown. Indeed, Elaine did like the shoes, she
> describes them as "very nice shoes" (100). So whose right? Or is it a
> mattr of taste? Taste in shoes? In men? Maxine's playful shoe fetish
> games suggest that she knows her shoes and shoes generally. But does
> she? Does she even know how to shop for shoes? Find a good fit? Get a
> good price? She is Jewish, right? The shopping trip that she aborts
> for a shooting range complicates things, as her shopping partner, who
> is keen to learn all things Jewish, and who is, a once upon a time if
> ever wasp, turns this shaggy dog round and round after its own
> tale/tail till it shits on the ....nope, cause here comes another
> toilet. In any event, the polyester content in the trench coat,
> mentioned in the description Maxine provides on 102, where Maxine
> distinguishes her idea of nice shoes from her mother's idea of nice
> shoes, suggests that Windust is Fiftyish Rodney Raincoat, Chester THE
> Molester, the kind of man everyone, including herself has warned her
> to avoid like teen pregnancy and herpes, but borderline personality
> that she is, she can't stop, she has to make nice with the creep, it's
> compulsive, she's as desperate as Heidi says she is, maybe more so.
> Why does she do lunch, coffee, the nasty, doggie with torn hoes down
> on the filthy carpet with this guy? Need for parental approaval? Is it
> her Mom's OY? Her Pop's hatred for Hoover and his clones?
>
> She can't say yet. All she can do is look at the shoes. It's NY. The
> shoes are the man. He tries to hire her. She dreams of him. so on.
>
> Shoes. Hector's shoes were they Elaine nice or Maxine nice?
>
> There was a time when shoes were real important in NYC. Back before
> Benny, when you could tell a man's trade, his union by his shoes. His
> firm maybe. WHite shoe firms and all that wing tip bs, but what's up
> with the shoes? Nice shoes big dick. Great fuck?
>
> The man gave me the news, he said you must be joakin son, where did
> you get them shoooooooooooz, where did you get them shooooooz
>
> what are those days that are gone forever?
>
> On 12/11/13, Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > It gets complicated here. Note that Windust, torturer and murderer in
> > the services of Empire for all we know, sets himself apart from his
> > colleagues by being in the dirty business for strictly ideological
> reasons:
> >
> > "To be motivated only by raw ideology--besides greed, what else could it
> > be--made him weird, almost dangerous." (BE, 109)
> >
> > Can this be related to the fact that he always scrounges money off
> > Maxine? To his choice of shoes?
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