Copellia

[David Morris]

Teenagers rebel against their creators every time.  It is the default.  WE
would rebel against US, and we do everyday.  If I were to find value in
Pynchon's love of Anarchy, it would be the value of chaos as a necessity
for evolution.  Chance trumps All.

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013, John Bailey wrote:

> I'm always interested by how damn often in the human (at least
> western) imagination we imagine our creations will rebel against us
> eventually. Robots, especially - it's as if we're sure they'll try to
> kill us all as soon as they're smart enough to think like us. Really
> neurotic of humans to project that onto something that doesn't even
> exist yet, I reckon.
>
> Has extra connotations for the US, given that it's a creation that did
> (successfully) rebel against its creator.
>
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > I guess the most important aspect of all of this neo-human engineering is
> > that deus ex machina. Even so benign a being as Slothrup might cost you
> your
> > balls.  The Creation often confounds The Creator, but only because of the
> > Creator's willfulness.  This is also the story of Faust:  willful self
> > creation via artificial means.  Both the same cautionary tale.
> >
> > David Morris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, December 31, 2013, David Morris wrote:
> >>
> >> P knows his Freud, and he knows opera.  He is well versed in automata
> and
> >> Frankenstein, as well as the golem,  He hasn't done clones yet...
> >>
> >> Clone Returns Home (2008)
> >>
> >>
> http://variety.com/2008/film/reviews/the-clone-returns-home-2-1200472620/
> >>
> >> Trailer:
> >> HKAIFF 2009 - 複製人懷鄉曲 The Clone Returns Home - trailer
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, December 31, 2013, John Bailey wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, Coppelia is based on ETA Hoffmann's short story The Sandman,
> >>> which was the major text Freud used to explore his theory of The
> >>> Uncanny (and good stuff on voyeurism and castration). Very influential
> >>> story and essay. Dunno if P read either but I've never been able to
> >>> read V. without seeing them everywhere in the novel. V is the human
> >>> who transforms themselves into an object, and makes real the horror
> >>> implicit in the ballet (it's more obvious in the story, which doesn't
> >>> have a happy ending.)
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:12 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >>> > Watching the movie Tetro, a scene from the ballet Copellia, the
> broken
> >>> > doll,
> >>> > is portrayed. I'd never heard anyone mention the ballet in V. In
> light
> >>> > of
> >>> > Copellia, which seems so obvious to be its reference.
> >>> >
> >>> >  http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copp%C3%A9lia
> >>> >
> >>> > Coppélia concerns an inventor, Dr Coppelius, who has made a life-size
> >>> > dancing doll. It is so lifelike that Franz, a village swain, becomes
> >>> > infatuated with it and sets aside his true heart's desire, Swanhilde.
> >>> > She
> >>> > shows him his folly by dressing as the doll, pretending to make it
> come
> >>> > to
> >>> > life and ultimately saving him from an untimely end at the hands of
> the
> >>> > inventor.
>
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