NP but " nasty, brutish and short" guy

Henry M scuffling at gmail.com
Sat Feb 16 07:50:50 CST 2013


http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/3207


Yours truly,
٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
Henry Musikar, CISSP
http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20


On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

> An Atlantic writer, Ta--Nehisi Coates, wanted to read Hobbes' Leviathan
> and offered an online group effort. Since I like these things, I decided to
> get a copy of the book and see if I had the time and inclination. ( lotsa
> posters not too cool, offering and arguing All Hobbes already rather than a
> step-by-step discussion. But that's life and freedom (but maybe Coates
> shoulda done a wiki to
> pin down observations and opinions?)
>
> so, I ordered a copy of the book and the one I chose had an introduction
> by one C.B Macpherson, a political scientist I discovered in the sixties
> with a book called The Political Theory of Possessive Individualism: Hobbes
> to Locke, which musta resonated or created resonance even if I din't finish
> it. Made me agin' 'em and agin' " possessive individualism" in ways despite
> Whatever hypocrisies I live and have.
>
> Turns out the Scotsman's intro was written during that world-historical
> year, 1968, and shows it
> These decades later.
>
> He sez, first and almost timelessly, that Hobbes is still relevant on 3
> counts: power, peace and science. The power relations between men, to lead
> to peace--"commodious living"--I like that phrase---and to do it on a "
> scientific" basis.  " To offset and contain the applied science of
> ballistics, we seek an applied science of politics." " We see that science
> may destroy us, and to ward off destruction, we fly to more science."
>
> He ends by suggesting that it is ironic that Hobbes penetrating insight
> into bourgeois man and society is so powerful as THAT is diminishing
> [bourgeois society]. An " of 1968" remark, fer sure.
>
> Sent from my iPadp
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