This is P-related. Discuss.

Michael Bailey michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com
Wed Feb 20 23:13:42 CST 2013


 Markekohut wrote:
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> Speakers of languages that don't distinguish between present/future save more money, smoke less, practice safer sex

well, hrmph, english has both, right?

i'm going to do this or that

i will do this or that (bringing in the possible "triumph (or not) of the will")

tomorrow i go to the beach - okay, not so common, but usable in that
everybody would probably know what you mean,  For instance, an
itinerary - on Tuesday the 22nd we go to Belgium eg.

but anyway - that's an interesting point.  does weak FTR mean there is
an assumption that one's trajectory as set by one's current activities
and plans is relatively strong compared to all the other things that
might happen including a change of plans or the intervention of
unforeseen circumstances?

does this equate with a custom of "playing the probabilities" which
could also be called "faith" of a sort?

gets into Hume territory - how do we know that there is in fact a
causal connection between our activities and their sequelae?

and then into that po-mo stuff, words shape thought which then shapes
words, consciousness creates vocabulary creates consciousness

a-and then, I guess, into Joyce "...that whets the wits, that finds
the nameform, that entails the ensuance of existentiality"

intersecting with Pynchon at various points (Lindsey Noseworth's
expatiation on trajectories, and the time travel sequences in AtD, are
the ones that spring to mind, but also perhaps Vond v Zoyd, Zoyd's
wishful thinking and his house - not planned at all, but extruded
gradually according to his desires moment by moment, evolving from a
trailer shaped like a canned ham [once again with the pig motif!] into
a rambling structure with rooms and extensions and bluejays on the
roof and a dog to chase them and sunlight coming through the vines
near the window - which Vond, expressing his extremely different
nature, seizes in his quest for a deterministic future - certainly a
weak differentation for BV between now and later, and a strong element
of planning, at least during his moments of glory)

PS - Mark, I really appreciate the discussion questions, but without
intending any rancor or pedantry, may I ask you to please remember
that plain text is a desideratum and will give your words a wider
audience in posterity?  (both now and later...hmm, am I being
Brock-Vondlike here?)



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