V. strand wolf in the fog
Bled Welder
bledwelder at gmail.com
Tue Feb 26 21:07:49 CST 2013
Wow. Intent on ignoring me and listening to Morris.
Okay, Morris, you're a scholar. This man wants to know: what's the "moon's
Antarctic?"
How clever and resourceful can you and Kohutikuc and Well in Town be
explaining this, besides my take, that it means *nothing*?
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Lewis Zhang <lewiszhang at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm mostly interested in interpretations of the phrase "beach alien as the
> moon's antarctic". What did he mean when he wrote this? Is "beach alien" an
> allusion to something earlier in the novel?
>
> Where exactly is the "moon's antarctic"?
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Lewis Zhang <lewiszhang at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I feel like I must've met these two on an LSD trip sometime in the 80's.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:50 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone ever seen Iris and Bled in the same room at the same Time?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 26, 2013, Iris Sirius wrote:
>>>
>>>> id be more than happy to provide context. but, i dont know when you
>>>> got on here, me a psilocybin freakout kickstarted me a year ago. But im not
>>>> about one to "go into the archives". never have never will. but ill
>>>> giveyoumy thoughts all you want. on archives, ask m.bailey. hes into it. i
>>>> dont think he's a bot.
>>>> if you care to research the bots on this list, ask Bailey.
>>>> On Feb 26, 2013 8:38 PM, "Lewis Zhang" <lewiszhang at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to need a bit of context before I can even begin to
>>>>> comprehend what you're trying to communicate here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Bled Welder <bledwelder at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Lewis Zhang <lewiszhang at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> V., pp. 297
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> enemies that would be with him to the grave: a sun with no shape, a
>>>>>>>> beach alien as the moon's antarctic, restless concubines in barbed wire,
>>>>>>>> salt mists, alkaline earth, the Benguela Current that would never cease
>>>>>>>> bringing sand to raise the harbor floor, the inertia of rock, the frailty
>>>>>>>> of flesh, the structural unreliability of thorns; the unheard whimper of a
>>>>>>>> dying woman; the frightening but necessary cry of the strand wolf in the
>>>>>>>> fog.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anybody help me deconstruct this amazing piece of imagery?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lewis, there is no deconstructing that piece of imagery. I mean you
>>>>>> can deconstrust it all you want, toss in nifty meanings and quote
>>>>>> "scholars" with opinions too on the matter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you just quoted? It means *nothing*. It's just a kid jerking
>>>>>> off. That's *all* it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I asked you to beware Pynchon studies, and you came up with this.
>>>>>> I'll ask you again: save yourself. That piece of trash you just quoted
>>>>>> *means nothing*. I mean literally. It doesn't mean anything. Get
>>>>>> over yourself as a literary agent. That shit means nothing--but sounds
>>>>>> great. That's it. I just gave you Pynchon in a nutshell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beware, again, my son, of adhering to anyone who finds "truths" in
>>>>>> Pynchon. They aren't there. If you think you will find guidance by
>>>>>> listening to Kohuticus or Well In Town....your fucked. Don't go there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Imagine being a genius, but with nothing really to say. Now think
>>>>>> Pynchon. Realize it, man.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has Kohutikus really, in our worst nightmare, just spent three days
>>>>>> discussing the meterorites in Against on page 986, one little paragraph, at
>>>>>> the bottom?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then Well In Town comes in with vast sources of people who anyone
>>>>>> with a brain realizes is a Gypsie rippoff.. Because so is Well In Town.
>>>>>> Ask yourself: does Well In Town *have* a personality? Does
>>>>>> Kohutikus?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not really. They're fucking robots, man. Believe it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Watch carefully the way they respond and write posts. They're bots.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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