V. strand wolf in the fog

Lewis Zhang lewiszhang at gmail.com
Tue Feb 26 22:19:40 CST 2013


Oh man my ESL is showing. I was reading beach alien as one noun, but alien is an adjective. Now it makes perfect sense. Thanks Don. 

As an aside, I'm in the last chapter of the novel and I don't want it to end. 


On Feb 26, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Bled Welder <bledwelder at gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay fine. Morris's interpretations always make oddly sense to me.
>  
> What about the Others...?
> 
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It's a sci-fi image.  "beach [as] alien as the moon's antarctic" is the key missing word.
>> 
>> But remember that V. Is very moonish.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, February 26, 2013, Lewis Zhang wrote:
>>> I'm mostly interested in interpretations of the phrase "beach alien as the moon's antarctic". What did he mean when he wrote this? Is "beach alien" an allusion to something earlier in the novel?
>>> 
>>> Where exactly is the "moon's antarctic"?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Lewis Zhang <lewiszhang at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I feel like I must've met these two on an LSD trip sometime in the 80's.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:50 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Has anyone ever seen Iris and Bled in the same room at the same Time?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, February 26, 2013, Iris Sirius wrote:
>>> id be more than happy to provide context.  but, i dont know when you got on here, me a psilocybin freakout kickstarted me a year ago. But im not about one to "go into the archives".  never have never will.  but ill giveyoumy thoughts all you want. on archives, ask m.bailey. hes into it. i dont think he's a bot.    
>>> if you care to research the bots on this list, ask Bailey.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2013 8:38 PM, "Lewis Zhang" <lewiszhang at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm going to need a bit of context before I can even begin to comprehend what you're trying to communicate here.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Bled Welder <bledwelder at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Lewis Zhang <lewiszhang at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> V., pp. 297
>>> 
>>> enemies that would be with him to the grave: a sun with no shape, a beach alien as the moon's antarctic, restless concubines in barbed wire, salt mists, alkaline earth, the Benguela Current that would never cease bringing sand to raise the harbor floor, the inertia of rock, the frailty of flesh, the structural unreliability of thorns; the unheard whimper of a dying woman; the frightening but necessary cry of the strand wolf in the fog.
>>> 
>>> Can anybody help me deconstruct this amazing piece of imagery? 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Lewis, there is no deconstructing that piece of imagery.  I mean you can deconstrust it all you want, toss in nifty meanings and quote "scholars" with opinions too on the matter.
>>>  
>>> What you just quoted?  It means nothing.  It's just a kid jerking off.  That's all it is.
>>>  
>>> I asked you to beware Pynchon studies, and you came up with this.  I'll ask you again: save yourself.  That piece of trash you just quoted means nothing.  I mean literally.  It doesn't mean anything.  Get over yourself as a literary agent.  That shit means nothing--but sounds great.  That's it.  I just gave you Pynchon in a nutshell.
>>>  
>>> Beware, again, my son, of adhering to anyone who finds "truths" in Pynchon.  They aren't there.  If you think you will find guidance by listening to Kohuticus or Well In Town....your fucked.  Don't go there.
>>>  
>>> Imagine being a genius, but with nothing really to say.  Now think Pynchon.  Realize it, man.
>>>  
>>> Has Kohutikus really, in our worst nightmare, just spent three days discussing the meterorites in Against on page 986, one little paragraph, at the bottom?
>>>  
>>> Then Well In Town comes in with vast sources of people who anyone with a brain realizes is a Gypsie rippoff..  Because so is Well In Town.  Ask yourself: does Well In Town have  a personality? Does Kohutikus?
>>>  
>>> Not really.  They're fucking robots, man.  Believe it.
>>>  
>>> Watch carefully the way they respond and write posts.   They're bots.
> 
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