pynchon-l-digest V2 #9514

[alice wellintown]

Well, it is an open forum, so one is free to post whatever....and this
works well enough for what it's worth...has worked for those of us who
stick around or come and go...and, while I agree with Ian here, Bled & Co.
Is a list Nanny who tries cut off threads he doesn't like. For example, he
doesn't like Mark's tweet posts and he doesn't like lit-crit, anything he
considers too pedantic.

As far as who knows P, well...as I've posted recently, as I'm reading that
corrupted pilgrim's guide, I'm astounding to see how wrong I think some of
the professional readers, people who have been reading and writing about P
for decades, are. That Hume, for example, argues that P advocates violence,
is, I think, a gross misreading.
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013, Ian Livingston wrote:

> What? We're going to censor the anarchists and the paranoid? Hm.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Don Antenen <dantenen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> You make some enormous logical leaps in your reply.
>
> This is a list-serv for discussing Pynchon, so I assume all of us give a
> fat Fuck about his opinion. Still, he's a novelist, so I'm not sure what it
> means to 'trust' him. I guess I trust that his fiction will be good.
>
> The death of 3000+ at the hands of Islamist terrorists was a tragedy (a
> tragedy repeated on a smaller scale across the middle east every week). The
> idea that the event was planned or orchestrated by the US government (or
> Israeli government or both, depending on the conspiracy theory) is
> ludicrous. At this point, all of the various (contradictory) conspiracy
> theories about the event have been so thoroughly debunked that their
> proponents are not worth engaging with.
>
> If one denies illogical, bizarre conspiracy theories, it does not follow
> that one believes America to be "eternally good" or even momentarily good.
>
> I generally find Pynchon fans to be intelligent and interesting, so it's
> disappointing that such nonsense is given any quarter here.
>
> all the best,
> Donald
>
>    ------------------------------
> *From:* Bled Welder <bledwelder at gmail.com>
> *To:* Don Antenen <dantenen at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* "pynchon-l at waste.org" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:42 PM
> *Subject:* Re: pynchon-l-digest V2 #9514
>
> God I'm so fucking sorry to disappoint you, bro.
>
> What did I say.  That the buildings were built to be destroyed by their
> builders?
>
> Who gives a fat Fuck what Thomas Pynchon's opinion is?  If he wants to be
> a reet about it, then fair enough.  It's scary, I know.
>
> The question was how can we trust Pynchon.  The answer glued over your
> eyes is clearly : "Implictly."
>
> Mmmm, Oooohhhhhh, what's Pynchon's take on the falling towers?  Such a
> tragedy.  "We" would never do that to "ourselves".
>
> America is eternally Goooood.
>
> Right.  I'm sure Pynchon thinks that.  Why do you think he's been in
> hiding for 60
>
>
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