911 Prewarning

Wed Feb 27 16:53:04 CST 2013

I'm not sorry to offend you, Malignant, even if you have to misread and
reach to make a comment offensive. I'll beat you to the punch this time:
Fuck you, you impish twit.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:46 PM, <malignd at aol.com> wrote:

> another loon.
>
>
>  2.  Why did a mediocre, forgettable movie like Argo sweep all the awards
> ceremony, get a personal well-wish by new Secretary of State John Kerry,
> and finally get personally awarded the Best Picture Oscar by Michelle
> Obama?  My conspiracy theory: State Department/Pentagon strong-armed all of
> the Hollywood power-brokers (not all of who, by the way, are Jewish) into
> arranging it, because the movie's anti-Iran (despite a quick conciliatory
> sop at the beginning) stance is a great piece of propaganda, a present-day
> Why We Fight, for our impending attack on Iran (or at least, our impending
> support of Israel's attack on Iran).
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kelber <kelber at mindspring.com>
> To: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 27, 2013 4:27 pm
> Subject: Re: 911 Prewarning
>
>  My husband had just parked a rental car on a rooftop garage several
> blocks from the trade center, when the first tower was already in flames,
> and he stood in a group of people who watched as an airplane seemed to fly
> straight towards them, banked, then hit the second tower.  Much as I often
> have squabbles with him, I pretty certain he's not now and never has been a
> Bush or CIA or Israeli government operative.
>
>  There's absolutely no contradiction between some extremely brilliant,
> brave, murderous, and sociopathic anti-American terrorists destroying the
> towers, and Cheney, Wolfowitz and Co. taking full political advantage of it.
>
>  As long as we're talking conspiracy theories, how about these:
>
>  1.  Why has the anthrax attack that followed 9/11 remained unsolved,
> virtually unexamined, and still rarely mentioned in the press?  My
> conspiracy theory: investigation would reveal that the US had, and has
> always had a bio-weapons program.  The press was strong-armed into silence
> by the State Department/Pentagon, as a matter of national security.
>
>  2.  Why did a mediocre, forgettable movie like Argo sweep all the awards
> ceremony, get a personal well-wish by new Secretary of State John Kerry,
> and finally get personally awarded the Best Picture Oscar by Michelle
> Obama?  My conspiracy theory: State Department/Pentagon strong-armed all of
> the Hollywood power-brokers (not all of who, by the way, are Jewish) into
> arranging it, because the movie's anti-Iran (despite a quick conciliatory
> sop at the beginning) stance is a great piece of propaganda, a present-day
> Why We Fight, for our impending attack on Iran (or at least, our impending
> support of Israel's attack on Iran).
>
>  Laura
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonin Scriabin
> Sent: Feb 27, 2013 3:33 PM
> To: Ian Livingston
> Cc: Lemuel Underwing , Keith Davis , kelber at mindspring.com, pynchon -l
> Subject: Re: 911 Prewarning
>
>  "selling the Iraq war"
>
>  This is one thing that seems pretty firmly established.  The Iraq war,
> from top to bottom, was / is a pretty scandalous disaster on the part of
> the Bush administration.  There are "weird things" about 9/11, but nothing
> we can no for sure.  I agree whole-heartedly with the sentiment concerning
> trust of the media / government press releases.  Basically, we shouldn't
> have any.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Well, whether or not there were any conspiracies involved in 9/11 or in
>> selling the Iraq war, or in the Kennedy and King assassinations, I think we
>> owe it to our rational selves to doubt anything news media or government
>> news releases tell us. Listening to professional liars is like being
>> professionally gullible or something. I, for one, have a lot more questions
>> than I have understandings, and as far as certainties go, well, I'm not too
>> sure.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Ignoring the issues of Controlled Demolition, remote-controlled flying
>>> (think drone), or any of that other stuff...
>>> I don't think it's nutty to claim that the Bush Administration had it on
>>> Good Authority that there were planned attacks on the World Trade Center,
>>> going so far as to Ignore explicit warnings by numerous Intelligence
>>> Agencies overseas.
>>> Hell, the Mossad (far from committing the attacks) actually warned the
>>> American Government in July of them, an Israeli Real Estate company even
>>> went so far as to break their lease in order to move out of the (south, i
>>> believe) tower.
>>>
>>>
>>>  President Bush's (it seems to actually have been under Cheney)
>>> National Energy Policy Development Group had a series of top secret
>>> meetings shortly after Bush was sworn in....
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Task_Force
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Klingons...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Antonin Scriabin <
>>>> kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Some claim there were no airplanes (the footage is faked), some claim
>>>>> the airplanes were a way to distract from the fact that it was a controlled
>>>>> demolition, etc.  You look hard enough, you will find ever possible
>>>>> conspiratorial angle ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:57 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never understood: do the conspiracy theorists (sorry, nuts)
>>>>>> claim there were no airplanes?  Or that George Bush called the airlines and
>>>>>> got them to crash the airplanes?  Or that he rounded up some
>>>>>> Hollywood-issue terrorists to pose as real suicide bombers to crash the
>>>>>> airplanes into buildings pre-mined with explosives?  All in the service of
>>>>>> bringing down the value of some prime Manhattan real estate?  Wouldn't it
>>>>>> have been easier to just wait for the inevitable flu pandemic or climate
>>>>>> event and blame it on Iraq/Iran/whoever meddling?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Laura
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: David Morris **
>>>>>> Sent: Feb 27, 2013 2:44 PM
>>>>>> To: Richard Ryan **
>>>>>> Cc: Lewis Zhang **, Michael Bailey **, Pynchon-L **
>>>>>> Subject: Re: 911 Prewarning
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember a youtube video conspiracy screed theorizing that the
>>>>>> towers' fall was a controlled demolition, not caused by the jet impacts.
>>>>>>  Too clean, it argued.  But it didn't mention that controlled demo requires
>>>>>> explosives placed at columns throughout the building, not just in hidden
>>>>>> spaces, like closets.  They must have used invisible explosives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Richard Ryan <
>>>>>> richardonriver at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  One of the interesting unexplored reports surrounding 911 - there,
>>>>>>> doesn't on closer examination, appear to be much here other than
>>>>>>> unsubstantiated hearsay, but it's odd that it never seems to have been
>>>>>>> thoroughly investigated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Odigo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've always been troubled by the discovery of Mohammed Atta's
>>>>>>> unscathed passport the day of the attack by A pedestrian.  Probably just
>>>>>>> one of those weird flukes but it's unsettling....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    **********
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>> www.innergroovemusic.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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