a sincere question

[lee momonin]

Yes, Bled, I completely agree and have to agree with TIME concept, and
I also found Alice's thought was decent...

so I have to say, i just trying to figure out: what miller's mood in
that point of time?
he was having all the disasters in paris but meanwhile he didn't
explain if he really want to leave, he just described some landscapes
around paris, there's some very sad writing there.

my feeling is: the things you can see in front of you are always seems
to be bigger and more important, so that it might easier to forget
about the time (so forget about more pain), but he was maybe afraid
for being afraid of a much serious element: space or time...

wait for continue

thanks guys for replies!!!

Momo
On 3 January 2013 10:42, Bled Welder <bledwelder at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm just now getting around to this mail, and I was struck by your
> compliment to Alice.  Only because I remember, last February, which is I
> think when Alice started in this incarnation, you said something to the
> effect of, so and so.
>
> Time changes us, and we change through time.  I don't personally think that
> it exists.  But it appears to.  It seems to be in my mind.  Is it elsewhere?
> No of course it's not.  It can't not be.  Or can it?  Take for example, not
> hot air balloons, but galactickly.  In Galaxy 47328, is there time?
>
> The question for me, is that time is in comsciousness, not outside.  It
> could be possible, that there are beings--with their own sense of time--for
> whom, what we call time, say a year, is the time it takes to have a piss.
> Maybe longer, to have great insane sex, say.  To build the bomb then drop it
> on innocent Japanese.
>
> Or to build worlds.  Think about say, if one planet evolved for one billion
> years.  It's their planet.  Or, we are them.
>
> That was my little aside.  On this planet, how long has it taken to write
> this.  It's all in consciousness.  When we grow to understand consciouness,
> we might get somewhere.
>
> But how is it possible, that there not be something?  How are we?  What is
> happening?
>
> Is it in time?  Or eternally out of it?  But our concept of eternity--is in
> time.
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:00 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good stuff, Alice.
>>
>> Pure experience versus thought-processed is a Very Big Pynchon theme.  Of
>> course normal humans can usually only do the latter.  But fiction can
>> strive...
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 2, 2013, alice wellintown wrote:
>>>
>>> As the title of Miller's novel suggests, time & space are not so
>>> easily distinguished. Is the Mason and Dixon Line a time line or a
>>> space line? Or is it both? All lines are signals ppointing up from the
>>> position of some observer somewhere. The grid, that latitude and the
>>> more allusive longitude seem to form a graph set over a living and
>>> evolving planet in space and time, but there are wedges and receding
>>> and expanding spaces that tick away, are lost, erased from the
>>> calander, from all maesures man may devise. There is a wonderful
>>> little book by the English pholisopher Berrtrand Russell, The ABC Of
>>> Relativity, and in it Russell puts the reader through a few thought
>>> experiments to help her break away from the habit of thinking about
>>> the world in pre-modern space and time. One involves a hotair balloon.
>>> We float in space and time after imbibing a drug, a lethe elixer of
>>> sorts that erases anything that might help us make a GPS. We are a
>>> transit of V-ness. Henri Bergson whispers in our ears, "Duration is
>>> the space you make up or take up, you spaceman. Wake up and shape up
>>> the narrative. That's another Henry, James...but standing on the E
>>> train, where everyone seems preoccupied with the time it takes, the
>>> space changes as the faces fold in and out, too many, too many in such
>>> a tight space and late...well, I'm not sure...I need space to think
>>> about it....
>>> > Hello guys,
>>> > Just read the almost last line of "Tropic of Cancer":
>>> > Human beings make a strange fauna and flora. From a distance they
>>> > appear negligible; close up they are apt to appear ugly and malicious.
>>> > More than anything they need to be surrounded with sufficient space –
>>> > space even more than time.
>>> > does anybody agree or disagree with "More than anything they need to
>>> > be surrounded with sufficient space – space even more than time."?
>>> > I personally think that I always need more time, as I need more self
>>> > confidence.
>>> > Please give me any personal liking replies, thanks!!
>>> > Momo
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