Oliver Stone (was:Pauper and Sweatshop Fallacies)

jochen stremmel jstremmel at gmail.com
Tue Jan 15 17:01:34 CST 2013


Somebody up to a bit of political science?

Okay:

Boom goes London and boom Paris
More room for you and more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it will be
We'll set everybody free
You'll wear a Japanese kimono babe
And there'll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGO42gvCSPI

2013/1/15 Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>:
> i see, conditional surrender with unacceptable conditions.  anyway,
> interesting thread, both here and the DU thread...
>
> also, the GR point, i think, is more of a MIRV (isn't that the old
> multiple warhead missile acronym) with a bunch of prongs, like
> reminding us of the existence and thriving of the merchant-of-death
> class as a causative factor in these wars, of the increasing
> disconnect between "modern war" and anything like "a meaningful fight
> between conscious participants in opposing factions" when aerial
> bombardment of any kind comes into play, of the changes in
> consciousness including (but not limited to) a loss of moral certainty
> in all the players, a thriving of black markets, and somewhat of a
> relish for the details of the actual workings even of instruments of
> destruction - even while retaining a sense of horror at their use, so
> that whatever stance you take on the necessity of Hiroshima's and
> Nagasaki's destruction - it really doesn't matter what you think, you
> couldn't stop it, it was horrible horrible horrible, and even despite
> your, my, our uniqueness and so forth - it could happen to any one, or
> even all of us - even me?  oh yes indeed !!!!!
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Michael Bailey
> <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>> not to butt in, but a slightly sidereal point here is Nagasaki, wasn't
>> there a Japanese surrender offer on the table before that one?
>>
>> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6233113
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "...and with all life throws at you, why oxidize needlessly?" -
>> Jonathan Kellerman, _Dr Death_
>
>
>
> --
> "...and with all life throws at you, why oxidize needlessly?" -
> Jonathan Kellerman, _Dr Death_



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