the meaning of old people

[Bled Welder]

Oh Jesus God, are you back to Grace?

All Is not so Well In Town, just die already.

What, did Hamlet fucking plumb that which I did not?  What was he
cynical...about?--I mean, beside dying?

What I would love from you old men, dying, watching you die, is something
in betwain, the teeth and the jukebox, and the bullshit about the kindness
into the peers.

What is dying *like*?  I, when not persuing alternative consciousnesses,
frequent the gym, and suck down many veetMIN supplements.  If you
multiplied, your BMI, times Hamlet's, I'd come out going to the Doc from
saying "Fuck man, whatever you're doing, keep it up."  I'll take any of you
depressed know it alls, and jerk it off.

I will--not be broken.  I am immortal.

You.  Bailey.  How did a Northerner from Ann Arbor end up in Orlando?



at 5:32 PM, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hamlet is an old school boy, and Horatio, older still, is, while not
> the foolish college chums that Dead G&R are, still, a college lifer,
> so, though he approaches Death with Infinite Jest, there is something
> cynical in Hamlet's quips and puns; his harsh, even brutal handling of
> his elders, not that he treats his peers with much kindness, is sign
> that his ego, while not mad, is still maniacal; his monomaniacal quest
> haunts him to his Be and his Not; this obsession with Being and not
> Becoming, denies the Stoicism that late-Shakespeare plumbs, in other
> plays, such as Lear.
>
> Lear is an old man.
>
> Like Hamlet the Elder and the usurping Brother, and like young Hamlet,
> Lear knows of Power and all that comes with royal wealth, but he also
> knows its corrupting influences.
>
>  The old must suffer, and to cling to life is suffering, to rage
> against the dying, to cling to the paper, the plastic, the books, the
> records, the words, the memories, is suffering...so the Stoics taught
> that old men must let go of such shameful possessing. But Lear, old
> man with wrinkled duggs does not say farewell to arms, but still he is
> saved from suffering. What saves him is Grace.
>
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