the meaning of old people

Bled Welder bledwelder at gmail.com
Sun Jan 20 23:44:17 CST 2013


Hammered.
 youhoo
Y fuck thats not right

Fuck it.

Threadbare.

Okay.  Look at me, it--

On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:06 AM, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com
> wrote:

> > What, did Hamlet fucking plumb that which I did not?  What was he
> > cynical...about?--I mean, beside dying?
>
> The thread began with an assertion about Hamlet's mother:  she
> betrayed her husband and her son by colluding with Hamlet's uncle who
> murdered King Hamlet.
>
> I think that is a misreading. A common one enough, as the reading of
> this giant play has been distorted by males in the academy (Freudian
> Readings & Co.), in the theater, and in hollywood. Gertrude is not
> Lady MacBeth.
>
> Hamlet is cynical, a paranoid cycnicism that makes him distrust not
> only his loving mother, but his lover, Ophelia.
>
> Of course, he is caught in a revenge tragedy of Shakespeare's making.
>
> Hamlet uses his pen and his sword, in his struggle against the plot
> and the part he has been cast into.
>
> It his pen, his language, that makes Hamlet not a traditional Hamlt,
> but Shakespeare's Hamlet.
>
> Like most of the other plays Shakespeare wrote, this one is taken from
> an existing drama, so he is working with a revenge tragedy plot, so
> people are plotting against him and he is plotting against them, and
> both are using plots, that is, theater, to take revenge.
>
> So Hamlet use his pen to change the script of his Uncle so tht G&R are
> Dead.
>
> We don't need to be feminist scholars to recognize that Ophelia is a
> sympathetic character. She has been fucking Hamlet and her father has
> been pleased with this arrangement, that is, until Hamlet is not made
> King of Denmark after his father's passing. Hamlet abuses her in a ms
> cruel manner at the play within the play; he is cynical and distrusts
> her. Though he will, later in the play, when he, for the first time,
> claims his crown at her funural, argue his love for her, we don't
> believe him, because he has lost credibility, as we know he is a
> cynical prince and now king, though he is not so when he is acting the
> mad part, using his pen for revenge.
>
> And Shakespeare, he is taking revenge on his rivals, the playwrights
> who are filling theaters with  revenge and gimmicks to please an
> audience who can not get enough blood, children actors, and salacious
> scenes.
>
> Parody.
>
> Grace is set against Stocism in Lear....so Grace for an old man.
>
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