Oliver Stone

[Prashant Kumar]

I'd like to give you an award for best list-crazy, but I fear that would
make you complacent.

Keep it up, your best work is ahead of you, I'm sure.

P.

On Tuesday, 22 January 2013, Bled Welder wrote:

> I'm just having a laugh here.
>
> Prashant.  You're a tad older than moi, and you're smarter than me.
>
> I'm just curious.  Do you know your name is....prescient?  I think the
> term, being, help me out here Kohutable, leave off the Twitting for five
> seconds and what is, prescient?  I mean the word, I'm not asking you to be
> prescient.  I'm not asking you to be Prashant, god forbid.  Is that some
> sort of Hindi, thing?  Like, say, Yao, in China, Yahoo in america, what's a
> popular name in North Korea, I worked with a dude for two years in LA,
> construction management, the Californians floated a 5 billion dollar bill,
> real like nerdy fellow, tall, almost as tall as pertaining to moi,
> presciently, and he kept, well he was let go eventually, nothing to do wed
> me, but he kept, cracking these unfunny jokes, but I mean he was funny, you
> just had to be there, he was Korean, right, southerly obviously, it's not
> like Kim Jung Il sent the troops over after the bill floated, after every
> half-assed crack, this nerdy fellow finished his goof off with...."like
> from China."
>
> Siva.  Now I will save now.  Your name is Siva Preshant?  That has to be
> some type of Hindi pseudonym.  Who were/are your parents.  I want to know
> this.  I'm morphing DeLillo here.  Pre--of the beginning of.  Scient--mind?
>  Science?  What is the word science being, becoming.  This I want to know.
>  So, Siva, you're a god of destruction, but which, help me out here
> Kohutimababale, can be *interpreted* any, which, way.
>
> Anyway, just a thought, there seems to be some serious translation of The
> Them, going on, round abouts this time.  You speak perfect English. Wait,
> that is an absurd absumption, that English is your second language.  You
> may, not, even, speak Hindi.  You may be pure blue blood, straight out of
> the suburbialandifortification--ized, of Princeton.
>
> m
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Prashant Kumar <
> siva.prashant.kumar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just re your 2), the physicists at Los Alamos did calculations to
> determine whether an atomic bomb would ignite the atmosphere (forget and am
> too lazy to find out when). So it's a safe bet that distinctions between
> atomic and regular bombs hadn't crystallised in the political psyche.
>
> P.
>
>
> On Monday, January 21, 2013, Joe Allonby wrote:
>
> 1) Truman was a politician, not a soldier. His understandable
> deference to the generals at the time helped create the problem that
> he had to deal with later in MacArthur. I'm looking around for
> evidence that Truman said "Drop these here two big bombs on those
> there cities."
>
> 2) Again, did anyone who was not a physicist or advanced chemist
> understand what went down at Alamogordo? Or did they just think BIG
> FUCKING BOMB?
>
> 3) I think we're in agreement here.
>
> I really don't know the answer to 1 & 2, but I'm going to spend some
> time today between football coverage looking into it.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:59 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
> > 1.  You think Truman gave A bombs to generals to use at their discretion
> > and, if they felt like dropping one on a Japanese city, that was up to
> them?
> >
> > 2.  Destructive power?  The bomb was tested ...
> >
> > 3.  Can't say, but I strongly suspect the answer is no.
> >
> > Did Truman give specific orders for the use of A-bombs at Hiroshima
> > and Nagasaki? Or did he simply give the weapons to generals who then
> > did what generals do?
> >
> > Were any of the people making political decisions and calculations at
> > the time aware of the destructive power and potential threat of these
> > new weapons that had never been used before?
> >
> > Did people flying in propeller planes envision ICBMs tipped with
> > fusion bombs and the threat of global thermonuclear war?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Allonby <joeallonby at gmail.com>
> > To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
> > Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> > Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:45 am
> > Subject: Re: Oliver Stone
> >
> > Did Truman give specific orders for the use of A-bombs at Hiroshima
> > and Nagasaki? Or did he simply give the weapons to generals who then
> > did what generals do?
> >
> > Were any of the people making political decisions and calculations at
> > the time aware of the destructive power and potential threat of these
> > new weapons that had never been used before?
> >
> > Did people flying in propeller planes envision ICBMs tipped with
> > fusion bombs and the threat of global thermonuclear war?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:10 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
> >> My memory of the facts as presented in that book were that the Japanese
> >> were
> >> looking to negotiate a peace and that this was communicated through the
> >> Russians, who had still not declared war on Japan, but were going to.
>  The
> >> US knew of this (as I recall) both through diplomatic traffic from
> Russia
> >> and from our own intelligence.  The timing of the bombing then (given
> that
> >> Russia was about to become a declared adversary) was to keep Russia away
> >> from the negotiating table once surrender was taken.  I'm simplifying,
> but
> >> the book is rich in this sort of thing and well documented.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> >> To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
> >> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> >> Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 9:27 am
> >> Subject: Re: Oliver Stone
> >>
> >> interesting. i'll have to read that one.  I'm curious though whether
> >> Truman and Co. had irrefutable proof of a impending Japanese
> >> surrender. If memory serves there was still no inkling of such after
> >> Hiroshima. Maybe some of the scientists who worked on the bomb had
> >> reservations but from all I've read about the event there was still
> >> many die hards in Japan who wanted to fight to the en
>
>
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