Pynchon & Math (Aristotle vs. Plato)

[Paul Mackin]

On 1/26/2013 12:16 PM, Markekohut wrote:
> Alice,
>
> Chodat reaches this internal "conclusion" in his characterization of what pragmatists believe.
> THAT internal definitional "conclusion" re what pragmatists believe is wrong, I say.
>
> It leads him to his we (pragmatists?) " must " choose one" . that is also wrong, IMHO.
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> I am not speaking of the "moreover" analogy, which is a separate conversation which I am only interested in as it pertains to AtD.
>
> I am speaking about Chodat's mis characterization of reading fiction ( if one is or is not a pragmatist)

Pragmatists accept religious experience, but only as just another 
experience.   They say that just because we might EXPERIENCE something 
as spiritual and immaterial, that does not mean we MUST posit immaterial 
man as a definitive choice, as opposed to a strictly material one. 
Percy's writing seems to disagree.

My view is that never the twain will meet.  It's a big frustration for 
people like Chodat, who'd like to see Pragmatism, as resurrected, take 
on a bigger role in the work of our most talented novelists.

Just a brief reaction to the discussion.  Probably totally out to lunch.

P
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:00 PM, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Mark,
>>
>> Chodat doesn't reach that conclusion. It is an anology, perhaps it is
>> not as clear as it should be, but the comparison is not arguing that
>> pragmatist beliefs are like Christian beliefs. In fact, the premise is
>> that they are not. Morever, this is what we are saying, generally,
>> about Platonic Christian vs. Aristotelian Pragmatic ideas.