Who killed literature? NP but profs, in the classroom, with candlesticks and test

alice wellintown alicewellintown at gmail.com
Sun Jul 14 15:27:24 CDT 2013


Itz about Work.

So called education reform is the application of a business model that
seels to maximize productivity. You can do this in nursing, in the
courts, in the production of high tech equipment, but not in
education.

That won't stop them from trying with Online course taught by robots
that can hold thousands of students in a class. Who needs a professor?
She needs a paycheck, benefits, and she might even think, complain,
get sick, teach something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baumol's_cost_disease


On 7/14/13, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
> I can only speak about the USA here.
>
> I doubt that the WSJ and their ilk, who are certainly hell bent on
> de-unionizing education and making it, as it has science and technic,
> an arm of the corporate state, will succeed in killing the Humantires
> or Literature. Of course, I may be wrong. Who could imagine that they
> would kill science and math and make it an arm of war and consumer
> oppression. Some Little men of Science still refuse to this and think
> they are doing science.
>
> In any event, we do, in the USA, live not in 1984 but in a Brave New
> World. Students of that novel, and of the Play from which it takes its
> name (The Tempest)know that the cultural forces that gave rise to the
> Humanites and to the study of Literature and to the Literary forms,
> such as the novel, are huge and complex, they are, as the forces of
> Science and Math once were, not secular and certainly not divorced
> from magic and the spiritual forces...and can be traced back to the
> Ancient Worlds, to the Greeks and to Chinese and Egyptian and so
> forth...highly developed cultures in America and Africa etc... and
> through the so called FDark Ages and the Printing Press that, as
> Hugo's (Hunchback) Deacon sez, killed the Cathedrals.
>
> That, says the Deacon of Notre Dame, as he points to a book, will kill
> this (the Cathedral).
>
> Any student of P must know what Adams was talking about when he wrote
> his books on US History, Education, and the Cathedrals of Europe, must
> surely understand the logocentric themes, of colonialism, of the
> European Companies that, as we learn in that Play that gave the tile,
> _The Tempest_ , treat Others as Calibans, use greater
> Magic/Science-Technic to subdue them, and, having run out of Frontier,
> have turned their attention to the spaces of our minds. And we, as in
> Brave New World, are complicit, not victims, but participants.
>
>
> That said, the notion that the victims of the assault on the
> Humanities, an attack that seeks to divide and conquer by focusing its
> brutal charge at teachers of Humanties, and also on Educators
> generally, are to blame for the decline in any and all fields of study
> is absurd.
>
> Who needs any of this? DId Bill Gates or Mike Bloomberg or Steve Jobs
> need any of this?
>
> Will the study of Literature help raise the standard of living of the
> average American? no. It will hurt their chances. The Humanites may
> construct clever arguments but its all sophistry and self-serving
> rhetoric.
>
> Today, as Carl Sandburg sez, I worship the hammer.
>
> Itz Ok to be Luddite. Ask anyone who knows what the teachers are only
> now beginning to understand" Science-Technic is an arm of the
> Corporate state and they will replace you with a robot.
>
> On 7/14/13, Matthew Cissell <macissell at yahoo.es> wrote:
>> WSJ trying to kill the Humanities (LIT., notice he doesnt say out with
>> hist
>> or philosophy) Still trying to get rid of the poets. this guy... What a
>> slug.
>>
>> That said, the HUmanities are in danger, we (those of us in the Hum or
>> trying to get in) should think about that with every paper we write every
>> conference we attend. This time of crisis shall pass but what will remain
>> of
>> the Humanities? Will we write of our own demise even as we orchestrate
>> it?
>>
>> mc
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:09 AM
>> Subject: Who killed literature? NP but profs, in the classroom, with
>> candlesticks and test
>>
>>
>>
>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323823004578595803296798048.html
>>
>



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