Edward Snowden, NSA whistleblower

[Henry M]

Um, this would all be SO much more useful if it wasn't turning out that
Snowden is a plant, fake, and stooge.  According to libertarian nutjob
Snowden and his employer, The Guardian, isn't according to Hoyle IMO , but
YMMV.

http://thedailybanter.com/2013/06/nsa-story-falling-apart-under-scrutiny-key-facts-turning-out-to-be-inaccurate/

Yours truly,
٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
Henry Musikar, CISSP
http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>wrote:

> Um, according to Snowden, he repeatedly brought up his reservations to
> superiors and had his concerns dismissed. Whether or not it is "legal"
> according to laws passed without the consent of the people, spying on the
> general public is certainly in direct conflict with the 4th Amendment. I'd
> rather be nervous about threats from abroad than about threats from my own
> government.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Jamie Collinson <jamie at bigdada.com>wrote:
>
>> extremely well said
>>
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Henry M wrote:
>>
>> Whether or not you like the results of Snowden's revelation, he's
>> certainly is closer to being a whistle-blower than Manning.  Many people
>> who have never handled sensitive information miss an important element of
>> what employees, government or otherwise, are told vis-a-vis
>> whistle-blowing, which is the requirement to bring the problem to one's
>> superiors or to some office specially designated for receiving such
>> information.
>>
>> If Snowden had done so, he probably would have been informed that while
>> he, and many other people, may have philosophical (and perhaps moral)
>> concerns about the NSA surveilance progam, it wasn't illegal and it wasn't
>> against government or program policy, direction, or charter, things that
>> Manning is too apparently too young and mixed-up to understand, but which
>> someone in Snowden's former positon should.
>>
>> However much you may like them and the results of what they've done,
>> Snowden and Manning broke the law and were aware of the consequence of
>> doing so. That there are bankers who broke the law (many just did very
>> wrong things) and who should be prosecuted in what would be very
>> complicated cases does not, in a nation of laws, give other people such as
>> Snowden and Manning, a free pass.
>>
>> Yours truly,
>> ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
>> Henry Musikar, CISSP
>> http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:39 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i can accept the release of what the NSA has been up to with wiretapping
>>> and the like  but if this guy also gave out secrets about US plans
>>> regarding cyberattack strategies/defense I think that's something he should
>>> be prosecuted for
>>>
>>
>>
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