The ugly truth of science

[Paul Mackin]

On 6/16/2013 10:00 AM, alice wellintown wrote:
> Monte, the stick up your ass is taller than the Empire State and 
> you're too fixated on me and what gives me the authority to post what 
> I'm posting. Take it easy, dude. You read more like MalignD everyday.

I kinda like the way malignd reads.  He doesn't suffer fools gladly and 
slaps down the obnoxious ones when necessary.

P

> Happy Father's Day
> May all our children at war return to their fathers and may all our 
> fathers at war return to their children, healthy, and as soon as 
> possible.
> And God Bless Our Terrific Scientific Nation.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis at verizon.net 
> <mailto:montedavis at verizon.net>> wrote:
>
>     No, Joseph. When Alice wrote here two weeks ago (the entire post):
>     "Science
>     is the project of little men who are easily enslaved and who crave
>     authority, though it is, at the same time, and necessarily so,
>     rebellious."
>
>     It was, as she explained ten days later,  a "playful allusion to
>     Reich's
>     _The Mass Psychology of Fascism_." Maybe to Reich's _Listen,
>     Little Man_ as
>     well; Alice is very well read. It's not a quotation, paraphrase,
>     or summary:
>     in fact, Reich's "little men" were average citizens of mass society,
>     insecure and ignorant and seeking certainties in the fascist
>     leadership of
>     Great Men. Fortunately, they could find freedom and autonomy in
>     the genius
>     and mail-order apparatus of a scientist --
>     psychoanalyst-turned-"orgone
>     biophysicist" Reich -- and what could be farther from whacked-out,
>     messianic
>     pseudo-science than that?
>
>     ... But I digress. The sentence and the thought are Alice's very
>     own, and
>     they're PLAYFUL. Trust me on this.
>
>     When Alice tells us that scientists "take comfort.. in
>     mouse/clicking a
>     village to dust..."
>
>     Or that science "hides its brain surgery butchery behind its
>     rocket science
>     superciliousness..."
>
>     Or that "the scientists took over and they don't believe in
>     anything except
>     hubris and machines..."
>
>     These aren't attacks, as you think. They aren't unfounded
>     stereotypes, as
>     you think. They don't cast blame, as you think. They're the free
>     play and
>     penetrating insight of a cultured mind. Trust me on this.
>
>     How could they be attacks? Alice is "a science person" herself --
>     one who
>     will surely "kick [my] ass in the science ring," and no doubt
>     yours and JZ's
>     too, as soon as she gets around to it. She won't specify a scientific
>     discipline specified, won't offer any of her experience or
>     attainments, and
>     has *never* written here of science and scientists except in
>     contexts of
>     condescension and contempt -- but she's a "science person." Trust
>     me on
>     this.
>
>     She's "married to a famous scientist" -- and trust me, what a
>     marriage of
>     true minds that is!
>
>     She loves her science (whatever it is -- don't ask because we've
>     been over
>     all this, and the whole subject is boring, and why are we so angry
>     anyway?)
>     as much as her poetry. Trust me on this.
>
>     She's also a world-class ballerina, a Formula One winner, a
>     nominee for
>     multiple Nobel prizes, founder/patroness of an orphanage near
>     Antofagasta,
>     and life chair of the Department of Omnicultural Studies and
>     Plasma Physics
>     at Miskatonic University. Only a little man like you could mistake
>     her for a
>     sad, strange online poseur and troll. Trust me on this.
>
>

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